Otie's Botanicals Super Green

[WickedMadScientist]

I've been on the hunt for leaf that tests the lowest in arsenic/lead, microbial (mold, yeast, bacteria) and then of course good alk levels. Although it's not as high for Speciociliatine that I was looking for, everything else checked the boxes for me. I believe the sweet spot for Speciociliatine is over .4 mg/kg, most are anywhere from .2 - .3 mg/kg.

This Super Green is truly a superior, very clean batch.

You can tell the whole entire process from harvest to drying to packaging, then shipping, and then finally storage and re-packaging, was handled with extreme care, which has now made me look at this vendor in a different light. There is also a video on his facility and setup, backing up these tests no doubt, and it's making me grab some other varieties now to stock up on known clean leaf.
I haven't seen any other vendor test as low as .0469 mg/kg for arsenic (on average 6-18 times lower than most other vendors) while lead is under .25 mg/kg (still really good), most vendors for arsenic are anywhere from .3 - 1.3 mg/kg
ALSO, having no detection of coliforms, while it maintains 200 cfu/g and under for yeast / mold. To be safe, you want to be under 1,000 cfu/g - But under 100 or < negative is superb.

With mitra @ 1.90% it leans towards being a faster burn. Amazing smell and taste, freaky fresh! I love trying new vendors like this and experiencing new farmers/regions as I haven't smelled or tasted this type of leaf before.

Looking at Red Malay and Green Dragon also test extremely well. It's soooooo hard to find a red that doesn't have over 1,000 cfu/g for yeast / mold due to the drying process and fermentation. I've seen some ridiculous numbers like 130,000 cfu/g before. It's at < 100 while also being at .096 mg/kg arsenic...

I wouldn't sleep on this vendor, great stuff, kudos.

[T0wlie04]

On Reddit this guy got accused of spiking his leaf with extract. The super red md and green dragon were weird for me. Could not take nearly as much as usual, raised my tolerance a ton, and gave me worse withdrawals than normal. I get that economically it doesn’t make much sense at the prices. It was an amazing burn but something was off for me with this leaf…

[otiesbotanicals]

On Reddit this guy got accused of spiking his leaf with extract. The super red md and green dragon were weird for me. Could not take nearly as much as usual, raised my tolerance a ton, and gave me worse withdrawals than normal. I get that economically it doesn’t make much sense at the prices. It was an amazing burn but something was off for me with this leaf…

Saying that we spike our leaf with extract is an absolutely absurd statement. Let's take this from a logical perspective.

-If you go on our website do you really see any extract products the way you would on other companies websites? No. We sell two separate liquid tincture products which aren't nearly as strong as other extracts. Not only that, but we have a limit on how many of those tinctures people can buy. Again, limiting how much profit we can make on those products. And why is that? Because we don't want to contribute to abuse. We've been open for 7 years and not once have we added extract products to our website. We could make waaaaaaaaay more money selling individual extract products and enhanced leaf then we would spiking products. But I told myself 7 years ago that I wouldn't put money over livelihoods. So we continue to not sell a range of extract products.

-If we DID want to spike leaf with extract we would literally just sell enhanced powder and make money off of it. Have we done that? No.

-If we really wanted to capitalize on dirty products and addiction, would we probably just sell 7oh? Yes. Do we sell it? No. That is where this rumor stemmed from. Some random person on Reddit said that our leaf was too strong and we must be putting 7oh in it which is absolutely ridiculous. I've never tried 7oh, I've never seen 7oh, I've never been in the same room as 7oh. I campaign against 7oh daily. And when it comes to regular extracts, I've literally taken an extract myself maybe twice in my life for the convenience factor of it. When I was in DC meeting with lawmakers about Kratom.

Now I know you specifically are not saying that we "spike" our products. But you just said economically it doesn't make sense (correct) But then said something was off about it which kind of leans into the absurd accusation. This entire shipment is dry season leaf and is pretty potent. Especially the Greens and Red MD. Instantly saying something is spiked on Reddit because of it is absolute crazy. Again, I'm not saying that you're saying that. If the burn was good but you still didn't like it that's 100% totally fine. But pointing at a crazy accusation like that, and then saying what you said just leans into it a bit for anyone reading it. We've already gotten 2 emails about it.

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[otiesbotanicals]

We appreciate the review! Thank you so much! The reason that the levels are so low on the COAs is because all the powder is sterilized. It travels across the ocean and those shipping containers get really hot. So sterilizing the powder is basically a must do.

[T0wlie04]

On Reddit this guy got accused of spiking his leaf with extract. The super red md and green dragon were weird for me. Could not take nearly as much as usual, raised my tolerance a ton, and gave me worse withdrawals than normal. I get that economically it doesn’t make much sense at the prices. It was an amazing burn but something was off for me with this leaf…

Saying that we spike our leaf with extract is an absolutely absurd statement. Let's take this from a logical perspective.

-If you go on our website do you really see any extract products the way you would on other companies websites? No. We sell two separate liquid tincture products which aren't nearly as strong as other extracts. Not only that, but we have a limit on how many of those tinctures people can buy. Again, limiting how much profit we can make on those products. And why is that? Because we don't want to contribute to abuse. We've been open for 7 years and not once have we added extract products to our website. We could make waaaaaaaaay more money selling individual extract products and enhanced leaf then we would spiking products. But I told myself 7 years ago that I wouldn't put money over livelihoods. So we continue to not sell a range of extract products.

-If we DID want to spike leaf with extract we would literally just sell enhanced powder and make money off of it. Have we done that? No.

-If we really wanted to capitalize on dirty products and addiction, would we probably just sell 7oh? Yes. Do we sell it? No. That is where this rumor stemmed from. Some random person on Reddit said that our leaf was too strong and we must be putting 7oh in it which is absolutely ridiculous. I've never tried 7oh, I've never seen 7oh, I've never been in the same room as 7oh. I campaign against 7oh daily. And when it comes to regular extracts, I've literally taken an extract myself maybe twice in my life for the convenience factor of it. When I was in DC meeting with lawmakers about Kratom.

Now I know you specifically are not saying that we "spike" our products. But you just said economically it doesn't make sense (correct) But then said something was off about it which kind of leans into the absurd accusation. This entire shipment is dry season leaf and is pretty potent. Especially the Greens and Red MD. Instantly saying something is spiked on Reddit because of it is absolute crazy. Again, I'm not saying that you're saying that. If the burn was good but you still didn't like it that's 100% totally fine. But pointing at a crazy accusation like that, and then saying what you said just leans into it a bit for anyone reading it. We've already gotten 2 emails about it.

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I meant no harm man - I’m simply trying to help others out bc i had a negative experience. This is a forum where we talk about vendors. I merely pointed out that others made this accusation, said it was unlikely, and then stated my subjective experience with the leaf. I would suggest taking it up with the people who made the accusation in the first place, not your paying customers who have used your product for years and who had legitimate concerns about it.

[WickedMadScientist]

We appreciate the review! Thank you so much! The reason that the levels are so low on the COAs is because all the powder is sterilized. It travels across the ocean and those shipping containers get really hot. So sterilizing the powder is basically a must do.

I'm really glad to hear this, just thinking about all the contamination I've consumed over the years makes me sick lol. It's on me though for not even being cognizant or aware of how important this is because I almost always have toss and washed for 8 years for convenience. Just got back to making tea like I should be (boiling water sweet spot 185°F)

[WickedMadScientist]

On Reddit this guy got accused of spiking his leaf with extract. The super red md and green dragon were weird for me. Could not take nearly as much as usual, raised my tolerance a ton, and gave me worse withdrawals than normal. I get that economically it doesn’t make much sense at the prices. It was an amazing burn but something was off for me with this leaf…

Saying that we spike our leaf with extract is an absolutely absurd statement. Let's take this from a logical perspective.

-If you go on our website do you really see any extract products the way you would on other companies websites? No. We sell two separate liquid tincture products which aren't nearly as strong as other extracts. Not only that, but we have a limit on how many of those tinctures people can buy. Again, limiting how much profit we can make on those products. And why is that? Because we don't want to contribute to abuse. We've been open for 7 years and not once have we added extract products to our website. We could make waaaaaaaaay more money selling individual extract products and enhanced leaf then we would spiking products. But I told myself 7 years ago that I wouldn't put money over livelihoods. So we continue to not sell a range of extract products.

-If we DID want to spike leaf with extract we would literally just sell enhanced powder and make money off of it. Have we done that? No.

-If we really wanted to capitalize on dirty products and addiction, would we probably just sell 7oh? Yes. Do we sell it? No. That is where this rumor stemmed from. Some random person on Reddit said that our leaf was too strong and we must be putting 7oh in it which is absolutely ridiculous. I've never tried 7oh, I've never seen 7oh, I've never been in the same room as 7oh. I campaign against 7oh daily. And when it comes to regular extracts, I've literally taken an extract myself maybe twice in my life for the convenience factor of it. When I was in DC meeting with lawmakers about Kratom.

Now I know you specifically are not saying that we "spike" our products. But you just said economically it doesn't make sense (correct) But then said something was off about it which kind of leans into the absurd accusation. This entire shipment is dry season leaf and is pretty potent. Especially the Greens and Red MD. Instantly saying something is spiked on Reddit because of it is absolute crazy. Again, I'm not saying that you're saying that. If the burn was good but you still didn't like it that's 100% totally fine. But pointing at a crazy accusation like that, and then saying what you said just leans into it a bit for anyone reading it. We've already gotten 2 emails about it.

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Definitely did not have this experience at all, it's superior leaf and I stand by the review lol, so it being spiked made no sense to me. I would of known if it was adulterated. I have so much kratom and it's literally my number one go too right now. Grabbing more this weekend!

[BallzDeep9]

We appreciate the review! Thank you so much! The reason that the levels are so low on the COAs is because all the powder is sterilized. It travels across the ocean and those shipping containers get really hot. So sterilizing the powder is basically a must do.

I'm really glad to hear this, just thinking about all the contamination I've consumed over the years ... makes me sick lol. It's on me though for not even being cognizant or aware of how important this is because I almost always have toss and washed for 8 years for convenience. Just got back to making tea like I should be (boiling water sweet spot 185°F)

Right Here... Read ALL of this... Captures the WHOLE "problem" of Kratom, sadly - Start with "vendor" who sells basically BUNK - Raw Powder that he ADMITS is sterilized (Heat Treated/ Gamma Rays), which DESTROYS the alkaloids... along with the dirty bacteria and Mold - which only GROWS on the long, hot, sweaty, journey on Slow Boat shipments / 30 TON loads - which then gets "Lab Tested" @ 1 little 25 gram ounce ?? ( Lab Testing is sketchy.!) - just like the "Fake Strains" (It's ALL now around 99% DIRT - maybe 1.5% Total Alkaloids) - HALF of the 3% alkaloids from a few years ago.

So NO SURPRISE, then... that any "vendor" WOULD definitely - Add some cheap MIT Extract - to "Bring Alkaloid Levels Up" - to where Consumers expect them (Around < 3% Total Alkaloids or < 2% Mitragynine) - BETTER to do this, than SELL the "Bunk" Raw Powder - that's had alkaloids DESTROYED by Heat & Gamma, err "Sterilized" at least he's honest enough to ADMIT. - the "problem" (But NOT confessing to the "solution" ? LOL ) ~ Honestly, we must feel terrible for SMALL vendors... in 2025 who spend $ MONEY $ and Time, on a HUGE shipment only to find it's... 1% Alkaloids. around HALF as "potent" as Consumers expect. So... WHAT to do ? Sell the Green Bunk ?? (And get Bad Reviews for selling "weak" DIRT powder ?) OR... Spike the Bunk and - At Least recover your investment... and hopefully keep Buyers happy/ Keep business going, as # DIrt Consumers is LESS / # Extract Consumers (including 7Oh) IS a growing % Share of the Market...

[Rambo]

We appreciate the review! Thank you so much! The reason that the levels are so low on the COAs is because all the powder is sterilized. It travels across the ocean and those shipping containers get really hot. So sterilizing the powder is basically a must do.

I'm really glad to hear this, just thinking about all the contamination I've consumed over the years ... makes me sick lol. It's on me though for not even being cognizant or aware of how important this is because I almost always have toss and washed for 8 years for convenience. Just got back to making tea like I should be (boiling water sweet spot 185°F)

Right Here... Read ALL of this... Captures the WHOLE "problem" of Kratom, sadly - Start with "vendor" who sells basically BUNK - Raw Powder that he ADMITS is sterilized (Heat Treated/ Gamma Rays), which DESTROYS the alkaloids... along with the dirty bacteria and Mold - which only GROWS on the long, hot, sweaty, journey on Slow Boat shipments / 30 TON loads - which then gets "Lab Tested" @ 1 little 25 gram ounce ?? ( Lab Testing is sketchy.!) - just like the "Fake Strains" (It's ALL now around 99% DIRT - maybe 1.5% Total Alkaloids) - HALF of the 3% alkaloids from a few years ago.

So NO SURPRISE, then... that any "vendor" WOULD definitely - Add some cheap MIT Extract - to "Bring Alkaloid Levels Up" - to where Consumers expect them (Around < 3% Total Alkaloids or < 2% Mitragynine) - BETTER to do this, than SELL the "Bunk" Raw Powder - that's had alkaloids DESTROYED by Heat & Gamma, err "Sterilized" at least he's honest enough to ADMIT. - the "problem" (But NOT confessing to the "solution" ? LOL ) ~ Honestly, we must feel terrible for SMALL vendors... in 2025 who spend $ MONEY $ and Time, on a HUGE shipment only to find it's... 1% Alkaloids. around HALF as "potent" as Consumers expect. So... WHAT to do ? Sell the Green Bunk ?? (And get Bad Reviews for selling "weak" DIRT powder ?) OR... Spike the Bunk and - At Least recover your investment... and hopefully keep Buyers happy/ Keep business going, as # DIrt Consumers is LESS / # Extract Consumers (including 7Oh) IS a growing % Share of the Market...

Even TFH sterilizes their leaf, it's basically a must have if you want clean leaf. No point making that sound like a bad thing.
With that said, I used to order from Otie's back in 2022 and loved their product. Might hit them up again after seeing this review!
Are any of the reds on the slower side of the spectrum? It looks like the Red Malay is a little higher on the mit% which usually means faster

[Babel-17]

By my reckoning, Otie's has always been consistently good. I haven't ordered from them in quite a while, I still have an unopened half kilo from 2021, but I dip into my stash of their stuff from time to time and it still holds its own. People on the internet continue to speak highly of their product.

[WickedMadScientist]

We appreciate the review! Thank you so much! The reason that the levels are so low on the COAs is because all the powder is sterilized. It travels across the ocean and those shipping containers get really hot. So sterilizing the powder is basically a must do.

I'm really glad to hear this, just thinking about all the contamination I've consumed over the years ... makes me sick lol. It's on me though for not even being cognizant or aware of how important this is because I almost always have toss and washed for 8 years for convenience. Just got back to making tea like I should be (boiling water sweet spot 185°F)

Right Here... Read ALL of this... Captures the WHOLE "problem" of Kratom, sadly - Start with "vendor" who sells basically BUNK - Raw Powder that he ADMITS is sterilized (Heat Treated/ Gamma Rays), which DESTROYS the alkaloids... along with the dirty bacteria and Mold - which only GROWS on the long, hot, sweaty, journey on Slow Boat shipments / 30 TON loads - which then gets "Lab Tested" @ 1 little 25 gram ounce ?? ( Lab Testing is sketchy.!) - just like the "Fake Strains" (It's ALL now around 99% DIRT - maybe 1.5% Total Alkaloids) - HALF of the 3% alkaloids from a few years ago.

So NO SURPRISE, then... that any "vendor" WOULD definitely - Add some cheap MIT Extract - to "Bring Alkaloid Levels Up" - to where Consumers expect them (Around < 3% Total Alkaloids or < 2% Mitragynine) - BETTER to do this, than SELL the "Bunk" Raw Powder - that's had alkaloids DESTROYED by Heat & Gamma, err "Sterilized" at least he's honest enough to ADMIT. - the "problem" (But NOT confessing to the "solution" ? LOL ) ~ Honestly, we must feel terrible for SMALL vendors... in 2025 who spend $ MONEY $ and Time, on a HUGE shipment only to find it's... 1% Alkaloids. around HALF as "potent" as Consumers expect. So... WHAT to do ? Sell the Green Bunk ?? (And get Bad Reviews for selling "weak" DIRT powder ?) OR... Spike the Bunk and - At Least recover your investment... and hopefully keep Buyers happy/ Keep business going, as # DIrt Consumers is LESS / # Extract Consumers (including 7Oh) IS a growing % Share of the Market...

If you’re not happy with your kratom, find a better source. But don’t slam vendors who go above and beyond by sterilizing, testing, and sourcing clean leaf because it's just transparency and should be the highest standard, not a red flag. And unless you’ve tried the product or have proof of tampering, maybe check your assumptions at the door. Clean kratom isn't bunk, dirty kratom is and the labs show that the "raw powder" is sourced from clean soil regions because look how low the heavy metals are in his COA's. You can't get that low of heavy metals unless you source from non-industrialized areas of Indonesia which have less exposure to mining runoff or industrial pollution and lower groundwater contamination.


You’re slandering honest vendors based on conspiracy logic. Otie's COA's are the cleanest labs I've seen of any vendor so far, granted I just recently started REALLY paying attention, have you even LOOKED THOUGH? You’re welcome to your opinion, but please, back it with science and your own experience, not speculation.

An easy convo with chatgpt debunks what you just said: Gamma irradiation and heat treatment when done properly are industry standard practices for herbs and supplements worldwide. Gamma sterilization uses non-thermal ionizing radiation that kills pathogens without raising temperatures or cooking the powder. Kratom’s main alkaloids are thermally stable up to 105°C+, and gamma exposure at sterilization doses 5–10 kGy does not break alkaloid bonds unless severely overdosed. It doesn’t destroy the alkaloids, it safeguards our health by preventing salmonella, mold, and microbial contamination.

[Silverstone]

I have used Otie's White JK and White Hulu in my rotation for years. Every batch has been consistently excellent quality since I discovered them in ~2022. Even IF the sterilizing process affected alkaloids, the final product is high quality.. (Maybe it STARTED OUT with higher alkaloids???) I dont post very often, but I felt compelled to write about my personal positive experience with Otie's Botanicals. I support vendors who make the effort to ensure that what they are selling is SAFE. (Kinda of crazy how one person's "weird" experience led to this "gossip".... or however it came about.... but it motivated me to express my support...)

[WickedMadScientist]

I have used Otie's White JK and White Hulu in my rotation for years. Every batch has been consistently excellent quality since I discovered them in ~2022. Even IF the sterilizing process affected alkaloids, the final product is high quality.. (Maybe it STARTED OUT with higher alkaloids???) I dont post very often, but I felt compelled to write about my personal positive experience with Otie's Botanicals. I support vendors who make the effort to ensure that what they are selling is SAFE. (Kinda of crazy how one person's "weird" experience led to this "gossip".... or however it came about.... but it motivated me to express my support...)

That's good to hear. Yeah I 100% would prefer a clean batch that is still fire while labs show a TINY bit lower on the other alkaloids (speciociliatine for example), than an unclean batch with very high alks. The thing is though, the alkaloids didn't even test that low, so I'm not sure what ballz was going on about. The leaf is great.

[SeventhHeaven]

If you’re not happy with your kratom, find a better source. But don’t slam vendors who go above and beyond by sterilizing, testing, and sourcing clean leaf because it's just transparency and should be the highest standard, not a red flag. And unless you’ve tried the product or have proof of tampering, maybe check your assumptions at the door. Clean kratom isn't bunk, dirty kratom is and the labs show that the "raw powder" is sourced from clean soil regions because look how low the heavy metals are in his COA's. You can't get that low of heavy metals unless you source from non-industrialized areas of Indonesia which have less exposure to mining runoff or industrial pollution and lower groundwater contamination.

You’re slandering honest vendors based on conspiracy logic. Otie's COA's are the cleanest labs I've seen of any vendor so far, granted I just recently started REALLY paying attention, have you even LOOKED THOUGH? You’re welcome to your opinion, but please, back it with science and your own experience, not speculation.

An easy convo with chatgpt debunks what you just said: Gamma irradiation and heat treatment when done properly are industry standard practices for herbs and supplements worldwide. Gamma sterilization uses non-thermal ionizing radiation that kills pathogens without raising temperatures or cooking the powder. Kratom’s main alkaloids are thermally stable up to 105°C+, and gamma exposure at sterilization doses 5–10 kGy does not break alkaloid bonds unless severely overdosed. It doesn’t destroy the alkaloids, it safeguards our health by preventing salmonella, mold, and microbial contamination.

THANK YOU for this post!

I haven't bought anything from Otie's in a while, just have too much other excellent leaf already on hand, but I've always considered Otie's to be a class act - with great product. In fact, their White Elephant is possibly the best blending leaf, to add to other "strains", I've ever experienced It's long been my favorite go-to when a particular batch of kratom is good but could use a bit more kick.

[T0wlie04]

I'm really glad to hear this, just thinking about all the contamination I've consumed over the years ... makes me sick lol. It's on me though for not even being cognizant or aware of how important this is because I almost always have toss and washed for 8 years for convenience. Just got back to making tea like I should be (boiling water sweet spot 185°F)

Right Here... Read ALL of this... Captures the WHOLE "problem" of Kratom, sadly - Start with "vendor" who sells basically BUNK - Raw Powder that he ADMITS is sterilized (Heat Treated/ Gamma Rays), which DESTROYS the alkaloids... along with the dirty bacteria and Mold - which only GROWS on the long, hot, sweaty, journey on Slow Boat shipments / 30 TON loads - which then gets "Lab Tested" @ 1 little 25 gram ounce ?? ( Lab Testing is sketchy.!) - just like the "Fake Strains" (It's ALL now around 99% DIRT - maybe 1.5% Total Alkaloids) - HALF of the 3% alkaloids from a few years ago.

So NO SURPRISE, then... that any "vendor" WOULD definitely - Add some cheap MIT Extract - to "Bring Alkaloid Levels Up" - to where Consumers expect them (Around < 3% Total Alkaloids or < 2% Mitragynine) - BETTER to do this, than SELL the "Bunk" Raw Powder - that's had alkaloids DESTROYED by Heat & Gamma, err "Sterilized" at least he's honest enough to ADMIT. - the "problem" (But NOT confessing to the "solution" ? LOL ) ~ Honestly, we must feel terrible for SMALL vendors... in 2025 who spend $ MONEY $ and Time, on a HUGE shipment only to find it's... 1% Alkaloids. around HALF as "potent" as Consumers expect. So... WHAT to do ? Sell the Green Bunk ?? (And get Bad Reviews for selling "weak" DIRT powder ?) OR... Spike the Bunk and - At Least recover your investment... and hopefully keep Buyers happy/ Keep business going, as # DIrt Consumers is LESS / # Extract Consumers (including 7Oh) IS a growing % Share of the Market...

Even TFH sterilizes their leaf, it's basically a must have if you want clean leaf. No point making that sound like a bad thing.
With that said, I used to order from Otie's back in 2022 and loved their product. Might hit them up again after seeing this review!
Are any of the reds on the slower side of the spectrum? It looks like the Red Malay is a little higher on the mit% which usually means faster

I heard the red Malay is amazing stuff. The super red Md was faster but hit HARD. Amazing Mood lift.

[whoisseananyway]

Wow. So much misinformation in one paragraph. If you think the hands, racks, and grinding equipment used by Indo farmers and processors are clean, go ahead and enjoy your untreated leaf. I'd like to see the science on alkaloid destruction (more than .01%). Also, someone thinks that leaves are made of 99% dirt. Nothing that I've seen except fermented or highly oxidized leaf has 1.5% total alkaloids (unless you are talking about Golden Skunk), 2.5% is more typical of greens and whites. 3% is rare but available, and has always been the exception rather than the rule, for at least the past 5 years. But that's due to overharvesting and cutting down old trees, not due to heat treating and gamma rays. Besides, the last thing that the kratom world needs is another contamination scandal. Science, people. Wow.

Oties leaf is good and clean. Enjoy it or don't, but don't tell tall tales.

Start with "vendor" who sells basically BUNK - Raw Powder that he ADMITS is sterilized (Heat Treated/ Gamma Rays), which DESTROYS the alkaloids... along with the dirty bacteria and Mold - which only GROWS on the long, hot, sweaty, journey on Slow Boat shipments / 30 TON loads - which then gets "Lab Tested" @ 1 little 25 gram ounce ?? ( Lab Testing is sketchy.!) - just like the "Fake Strains" (It's ALL now around 99% DIRT - maybe 1.5% Total Alkaloids) - HALF of the 3% alkaloids from a few years ago. ift.

[WickedMadScientist]

Wow. So much misinformation in one paragraph. If you think the hands, racks, and grinding equipment used by Indo farmers and processors are clean, go ahead and enjoy your untreated leaf. I'd like to see the science on alkaloid destruction (more than .01%). Also, someone thinks that leaves are made of 99% dirt. Nothing that I've seen except fermented or highly oxidized leaf has 1.5% total alkaloids (unless you are talking about Golden Skunk), 2.5% is more typical of greens and whites. 3% is rare but available, and has always been the exception rather than the rule, for at least the past 5 years. But that's due to overharvesting and cutting down old trees, not due to heat treating and gamma rays. Besides, the last thing that the kratom world needs is another contamination scandal. Science, people. Wow.

Oties leaf is good and clean. Enjoy it or don't, but don't tell tall tales.

Start with "vendor" who sells basically BUNK - Raw Powder that he ADMITS is sterilized (Heat Treated/ Gamma Rays), which DESTROYS the alkaloids... along with the dirty bacteria and Mold - which only GROWS on the long, hot, sweaty, journey on Slow Boat shipments / 30 TON loads - which then gets "Lab Tested" @ 1 little 25 gram ounce ?? ( Lab Testing is sketchy.!) - just like the "Fake Strains" (It's ALL now around 99% DIRT - maybe 1.5% Total Alkaloids) - HALF of the 3% alkaloids from a few years ago. ift.

Couldn't of said it better.

[Rambo]

Ordered a few strains mentioned here, only tried the Red Malay so far but it’s indeed really potent. Great daytime burn, has the mood boost, euphoria, all the qualities I’d be looking for to get through the day

[WickedMadScientist]

Ordered a few strains mentioned here, only tried the Red Malay so far but it’s indeed really potent. Great daytime burn, has the mood boost, euphoria, all the qualities I’d be looking for to get through the day

I ended up ordering a Kilo more. I got:
Red Malay
Super Green MD
White Elephant
Super Red MD

I've opened all but Super Red MD. Every batch is consistent, amazingly fresh and potent. I can't praise Adam enough for how clean the labs are as well. He even acknowledged they lucked out with this batch, indeed... Red Malay/Super Green MD together, half tsp/half tsp is a knockout combo. heavy, slow burner which is surprising considering like mentioned, Red Malay tested high mit.

My experience took me back to 2018/2019 when I first started taking kratom, it's been a while since I've had leaf that did that for me. Especially the slight mouth tingling/numbness, I'm suspecting this is a full spectrum harvest and it's packed with other alkaloids that don't get tested for or we aren't even aware of. It takes me back to what I remember kratom being like before all the oversaturation/competition and over-harvesting, mixed with long pre/post processing times that some of the leaf on the market goes through. Only other vendor that did that for me was back right before covid Botanical Bunny White Dayak and KOG's Yellow Magic, surprisingly some selections at the CBD Kratom Downtown Dallas (super expensive), and of course STH when they first did their raffle on here. This forum isn't as active as it used to be, so I'm sure he has plenty stock, but don't miss out on these varieties. Money well spent and Adam isn't even pricey, when he absolutely could raise prices on this leaf even marketing it Wild/Old Growth or Premium....

[Daydreamsofmountains]

I appreciated this thread. I hadn’t ordered from anyone other than TFH and Lonestar for quite a while and had forgotten about Otie’s. I don’t use this forum as much as I used to - just not my vibe - but am loving some of these newer voices. Anyhow, I ordered some Otie’s last month after ready this and was super happy.

[T0wlie04]

I appreciated this thread. I hadn’t ordered from anyone other than TFH and Lonestar for quite a while and had forgotten about Otie’s. I don’t use this forum as much as I used to - just not my vibe - but am loving some of these newer voices. Anyhow, I ordered some Otie’s last month after ready this and was super happy.

What’s your fav?

[ausamo2000]

wow... that reply from BallzDeep9 is so dam crazy that im going to be making my next purchase with oties. I had tried them a few years ago and definitely want to give them another try and what better time than right after reading such a crazy post!

[otiesbotanicals]

Thank you for the review and thank you for the support everyone!!!!! You all are the reason we've been doing this for over 7 years!!!!

Gamma-ray sterilization does NOT destroy kratom alkaloids.
Mitragynine and 7-hydroxy-mitragynine are stable under normal irradiation doses (5–10 kGy).
Gamma rays kill bacteria/mold but don’t reduce potency or make the product radioactive.
Only extreme, non-commercial doses could break down alkaloids.

Sterilizing is non negotiable. We pay extra per kilo to have this done. It is now a requirement for exporters in Indonesia to have this done. Although not everyone does it. We were doing this long before it was required.

Again, saying that we (A company who doesn't really sell extracts) spikes their powder with extracts is absurd) lmao

Thank you for all your support! We will continue to do our best bringing you a good CLEAN product.

LOVE YOU ALL!!

PS: Our clean room video was mentioned. That's actually our old clean room!!! Wait till you see the new one!!

[otiesbotanicals]

wow... that reply from BallzDeep9 is so dam crazy that im going to be making my next purchase with oties. I had tried them a few years ago and definitely want to give them another try and what better time than right after reading such a crazy post!

Thank you!!!!

[stax-xats]

I was searching for a good vendor that sells clean Kratom and came across this. Ill give you the short version. Went to Neurologist for severe muscle weakness and tremors. MRI showed deposits consistent with severe metabolic disorder or poisoning. Dr. asked if I worked around metal shop or if I was taking anything that could be contaminated. I said no. However I assumed it was the Kratom. I switched vendors and 9 months later I am much improved Dr asked what I'm doing differently - I told him more sleep . I will never say a bad thing to a doctor about Kratom. I researched and knew the risks befote starting it. Also I take a large amount total per day so I feel I am at least partially responsible for consuming as much contaminated material as I did. Anyway, I am going to give Oties a try based on what I read here (and other research)

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I assume people are wondering how much so here's my routine. I have been taking Kratom for over 10 years. I take 12g in the morning. Usually 3-4 hrs later (depending on pain) I taken10g. That holds your me for another 4-6 hrs then I take 8g and repeat as needed. I am able to go longer between doses if I am not active. My totals are around 50-60g. Yes I can poop and do regularly, never had a problem with that or anything prior to this . My family doctor knows I take it and I get bloodwork annually. I started buying exclusively from a small vendor for about a year before things got really bad. Also I don't blame them. I feel Kratom gave me my life back. I had 2 spine surgeries and was on disability before stating. I still have pain but its very tolerable. I am able to exercise lost 50lbs but more importantly became active with my family again.

[T0wlie04]

I was searching for a good vendor that sells clean Kratom and came across this. Ill give you the short version. Went to Neurologist for severe muscle weakness and tremors. MRI showed deposits consistent with severe metabolic disorder or poisoning. Dr. asked if I worked around metal shop or if I was taking anything that could be contaminated. I said no. However I assumed it was the Kratom. I switched vendors and 9 months later I am much improved Dr asked what I'm doing differently - I told him more sleep . I will never say a bad thing to a doctor about Kratom. I researched and knew the risks befote starting it. Also I take a large amount total per day so I feel I am at least partially responsible for consuming as much contaminated material as I did. Anyway, I am going to give Oties a try based on what I read here (and other research)

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I assume people are wondering how much so here's my routine. I have been taking Kratom for over 10 years. I take 12g in the morning. Usually 3-4 hrs later (depending on pain) I taken10g. That holds your me for another 4-6 hrs then I take 8g and repeat as needed. I am able to go longer between doses if I am not active. My totals are around 50-60g. Yes I can poop and do regularly, never had a problem with that or anything prior to this . My family doctor knows I take it and I get bloodwork annually. I started buying exclusively from a small vendor for about a year before things got really bad. Also I don't blame them. I feel Kratom gave me my life back. I had 2 spine surgeries and was on disability before stating. I still have pain but its very tolerable. I am able to exercise lost 50lbs but more importantly became active with my family again.

How was it?

[IndelibleDotInk]

Otie's sent me some samples several weeks ago, some of which was Super Green. I don't have the batch # here, will try to update later. BATCH # 106020525

The last time I ordered from Oties was maybe two and a half years ago, not for lack of quality, but because of the relationships built with my favorite vendors, and lack of time to test all the vendors out there, and the great quality I was getting already.

I remember they were quite good, and we had conversations about our dogs (Otie was one of their doggos), and their discount rate for veterans and the disabled, which impressed me very much.

The Super Green was good, not stellar, but I just took some and upped the dose, am feeling relaxed, it's a smooth ride. [It's quality kratom.] I had also some of the red they sent right after I got the sample, in the evening, and there was minor relief from my recovering broken ankle (like from a 1, least pain, to a 0.5 almost no pain). I suspect a large dose of either would take away more pain, provide a warm body feeling, humming energy, etc. all the good stuff found in good red and green kratom.

Do I recommend trying Oties? Yes, I suggest it, the Super Green for some pain killing action and a tad of energy and some happy smiles. Did they pay me off with tons of kratom? Naw, just a reasonable amount, five or six 10g packets, enough to give me a good feel for their wares, but not enough to buy me off, LOL. Have't yet delved into the other packs.

Like I mentioned earlier, check out their programs for veterans, the disabled, those that need an extra oomph in life (contact them, I only know they have these programs, not the specifics).

Scratches and pets for Otie, I know he'd want to romp with my Sihaya.

[thesonsangel]

Thank you for the review and thank you for the support everyone!!!!! You all are the reason we've been doing this for over 7 years!!!!

Gamma-ray sterilization does NOT destroy kratom alkaloids.
Mitragynine and 7-hydroxy-mitragynine are stable under normal irradiation doses (5–10 kGy).
Gamma rays kill bacteria/mold but don’t reduce potency or make the product radioactive.
Only extreme, non-commercial doses could break down alkaloids.

Sterilizing is non negotiable. We pay extra per kilo to have this done. It is now a requirement for exporters in Indonesia to have this done. Although not everyone does it. We were doing this long before it was required.

Again, saying that we (A company who doesn't really sell extracts) spikes their powder with extracts is absurd) lmao

Thank you for all your support! We will continue to do our best bringing you a good CLEAN product.

LOVE YOU ALL!!

PS: Our clean room video was mentioned. That's actually our old clean room!!! Wait till you see the new one!!

Good Morning beautiful peoples! Adam & fellow Ktea consumers, I ordered a couple months ago and just this morning, Feb. 13th, 2026, I ordered again, just a couple different whites. Super Green batch was somewhat less potent, energetic to me this time ( I ordered 1/2 K of it and 1/2 k of Super White MD ) but...I'm not complaining because I believe its the wet season & not as potent. Again, didn't stop me from ordering again and I'm looking forward to trying out these 2 whites, JK & WE, they were on sale too so I got 2-250 of each= 1K. Normally I take greens but this last year has had some hard times on me physically so I needed to have more go power Ktea; hence ordering whites. Thank you to WickedMadScientist for putting the breakdown review on here & for doing all that research; thank you! Keep smiling friends & know that JESUS LOVES You, yes you, all of you, all of us, no matter what! No Bible "thumping" here, just JESUS LOVE! A wonderfully Blessed day to all of ya'll!