Brief review of some of Liza's stuff

[djulain]

Great vendor. I have an exam tonight that I should be studying for but this Premium Kalbar has me so wired I'm gonna write a quick review for the some of my favorites of the 19 strains I've tried from Liza's recently.

Top 5:
Green Aceh #2: holy fuck my dudes. some of the most euphoric kratom I've had in a minute. very stimulating, well rounded, and anxiolytic. clear-headed and "sharp" and fairly potent
Happy Go Lucky: normally i don't respond well to blends, but with this one i was able to up the dose a bit and it had a very chill, relaxing euphoria that i don't get with many reds. very good mood boost, not much stimulation.
White Hulu: white veins have been making me quite foggy and anxious lately (formerly my favorites too) but this white hulu was very euphoric but still clear-headed and anxiolytic. just like RVA's best batches of white hulu.
Red Sulawesi: still getting a feel for this one, but it seems like an "in between" red. not overly sedating, and with some euphoria still in the mix that most reds lack for me.
Premium Kalbar: not sure if this is the same that KOG has, but if so the curing process might explain the effects. i took 3g this morning, felt nothing for about 90 minutes (i inhaled a burrito within 30 seconds of parachuting it) then all of a sudden i felt something happen in my stomach (prob gastric emptying) then 3 minutes later i was nodding. which wasn't good because i was in class. but, after about six 30-second naps, the nodding passed and i got a very balanced, clean euphoria with very strong anxiolytic effects. on par with some of the reds in that regard. not quite as clear headed as the green aceh but very close, and much stronger painkilling effects

i'll post some other favs after but i just wanted to get this out while it was on my mind before i shift my thinking over to biochemistry.

[herbalhippie]

then all of a sudden i felt something happen in my stomach (prob gastric emptying)

I've never really paid much attention to what my stomach was doing, but I've had some episodes of gastroparesis here in the last month and now when that happens, I can definitely feel when my stomach starts functioning as it should again. It is the weirdest feeling and there's no mistaking what's going on.

Great reviews! The only Green Aceh I have is RVA's first batch of it. Yours sounds good but I cannot do stimulating strains.

[BallzDeep9]

Good reviews, thank you I guess I'll piggyback on yours to talk about Liza's Extract "candy" See pic below, these are Imported kratom resin. Not home made, they are I believe from an Indo supplier in Sumatra. They cook raw fresh leaves & reduce them down to a sticky resin. One is about equal to 1 strong dose.

I'm trying to avoid using the word candy lol, the taste is definitely NOT candy!! Just like kratom powder or Tea.. we don't use kratom for the taste OK so I dissolved one in 8 oz hot water, they are water soluble. This cup of dark kratom coffee, I added to some other kratom tea... I could def feel a boost in effects. This type of extract does give you a Red effect, for sure.. it's gonna give sedation, pain relief.. maybe even a nod. These would be excellent for those seeking help for their pain - Add this extract to your kratom Tea!

Liza carries several, different, types of extract. Another hard, chunk Resin product that looks a bit like chocolate. Same way, can be dissolved in Tea. Liza knows her sources, and is expecting a shipment of Green or Red 20x powder Extract, which can be added to any strain for Enhanced kratom.

[SunnyD]

Can someone tell me how I can get ahold of Liza? I just placed an order but I made a mistake

Cancel that request....she got in touch with me

[beathappening]

This is helpful. I want to do an 8 ounce sampler but unsure of what to get.

[FibonCarbor]

Hi, new here. I recently ordered some RHSC, Relaxer Elixer, green zombie, and happy-go-lucky from Liza's. I was optimistic as my last order had been from MI which was very disappointing with quality. I have tried all 4 of the blends/strains listed above from Liza and have yet to feel anything! Maybe something is there, but nothing close to RVA and even HS that iv'e had in the past. (I feel RVA and HS are okay but feel I can find better)

Does anyone have any similar experience with RHSC, Relaxer Elixer, green zombie, and happy-go-lucky, or any strains from Liza as of 2019? I read a few more about Liza's and people are making it some of the best ever. Did I just get the wrong strain or blends?

[herbalhippie]

Welcome to the forum, FibonCarbor!

[gumbyke1]

I ordered a bunch of strains, here is what I think so far. Keep in mind I have only used each of these once (besides green zombie).

Red Banjo - underwelming, but it was there.
Green Zombie - Bingo, this one works well for me. I like this one and reccomend.

With all that said, each of the strains I tried so far were reccomend by others, so it doesn't mean they are bad strains. I'm a long time kratom user and it's usually the case that most of the strains I order don't do it for me..., even those batches that everyoneone is raving about.The cliche is true, everyone is different.

[creekdog]

Hi, new here. I recently ordered some RHSC, Relaxer Elixer, green zombie, and happy-go-lucky from Liza's. I was optimistic as my last order had been from MI which was very disappointing with quality. I have tried all 4 of the blends/strains listed above from Liza and have yet to feel anything! Maybe something is there, but nothing close to RVA and even HS that iv'e had in the past. (I feel RVA and HS are okay but feel I can find better)

Does anyone have any similar experience with RHSC, Relaxer Elixer, green zombie, and happy-go-lucky, or any strains from Liza as of 2019? I read a few more about Liza's and people are making it some of the best ever. Did I just get the wrong strain or blends?

I had the same experience with my sampler order a couple months ago, I always go for white/green but placed a first time order of RHSC, Relaxer Elixer and Golden Tulip to see if I would respond to red from a vendor that’s not head shop. that was my first real vendor order, in November. Liza is awesome and shipping was fast. The RHSC didn’t do anything for me, didn’t notice a difference taking it. Relaxer Elixer was similar but slightly stronger. Still not impressed. However Golden Tulip was good, didn’t knock my socks off but it’s a four color blend with white, green, yellow and bent. I will say the GT was my favorite Of those three blends. However I want to place an order today and try strictly one strain whites and greens which I usually respond well to and see what she has going.

[Payshince]

Hi, new here. I recently ordered some RHSC, Relaxer Elixer, green zombie, and happy-go-lucky from Liza's. I was optimistic as my last order had been from MI which was very disappointing with quality. I have tried all 4 of the blends/strains listed above from Liza and have yet to feel anything! Maybe something is there, but nothing close to RVA and even HS that iv'e had in the past. (I feel RVA and HS are okay but feel I can find better)

Does anyone have any similar experience with RHSC, Relaxer Elixer, green zombie, and happy-go-lucky, or any strains from Liza as of 2019? I read a few more about Liza's and people are making it some of the best ever. Did I just get the wrong strain or blends?

I had the same experience with my sampler order a couple months ago, I always go for white/green but placed a first time order of RHSC, Relaxer Elixer and Golden Tulip to see if I would respond to red from a vendor that’s not head shop. that was my first real vendor order, in November. Liza is awesome and shipping was fast. The RHSC didn’t do anything for me, didn’t notice a difference taking it. Relaxer Elixer was similar but slightly stronger. Still not impressed. However Golden Tulip was good, didn’t knock my socks off but it’s a four color blend with white, green, yellow and bent. I will say the GT was my favorite Of those three blends. However I want to place an order today and try strictly one strain whites and greens which I usually respond well to and see what she has going.

Creekdog

I’m the same pretty much, with vein colors.

I love White vein and Green vein... because they work!
Reds are a 50/50 overall for me.

Liza’s is great.
For her blends in regards to the three you mentioned I felt the same except for the Relaxer Elixir one I have yet to try!

Her RHSC (Red Headed Step Child) for those unaware.. did something for me but nothing drastic just a wee bit (As Reds usually are for me)!!***
Golden Tulips I thought was a 11blend? Maybe I confused another blend from Liza or a diff vendor but regardless Golden Tulips was good very nice feel to it.. more than the RHSC of course but still more along the lines of a Red type feeling in general and for me.

Her Whites and Greens I’ve had excellence with.

Reds are just usually like this for me.
I do however like her Red Sulawesi, Red Pucuk.
Feels fast and subtle a White Indo White Banjo type subtlty to it so glad I get some Reds to work for me


FibonCarbor ALSO, *

I would Not be discouraged for Liza’s products.
I meant to comment the other day to you and yeah that blows that you felt nada or so from those 4.. I felt low effects from those 3/4 and felt a goos bit from the Green Zombie though!
Maybe focus on more of Liza’s strictly Green, White, and or Red, Yellow, Gold, batches?

Don’t give up though don’t stress I know the feeling believe me. Try again on those other new blends ans batches next week and so on!

Good luck to both of you
FibonCarbor

And creekdog

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[SomethingClever]

Hey there, I’m new here but just wanted to share my results with Lisa, I ordered last week and like other was underwhelmed by the products I tried. The RHSC did little, HAppy go lucky did little as well, I felt nothing from the green nanga and little from the white Bali. I am opiate tolerant and have only been using kratom for 2 weeks to get off subs but the first company I tried which I found off another kratom forum hit me well. Their product also seemed fresher than Liza’s, greens and reds both looked green but effected me differently with the reds being more relaxing. They also didn’t use names but rather batch numbers. I ordered recently from inland so I’m hoping quality will be up there but I’m hesitant trying to order from Liza again and striking out, I don’t mind paying a little more for consistency

[creekdog]

Hi, new here. I recently ordered some RHSC, Relaxer Elixer, green zombie, and happy-go-lucky from Liza's. I was optimistic as my last order had been from MI which was very disappointing with quality. I have tried all 4 of the blends/strains listed above from Liza and have yet to feel anything! Maybe something is there, but nothing close to RVA and even HS that iv'e had in the past. (I feel RVA and HS are okay but feel I can find better)

Does anyone have any similar experience with RHSC, Relaxer Elixer, green zombie, and happy-go-lucky, or any strains from Liza as of 2019? I read a few more about Liza's and people are making it some of the best ever. Did I just get the wrong strain or blends?

I had the same experience with my sampler order a couple months ago, I always go for white/green but placed a first time order of RHSC, Relaxer Elixer and Golden Tulip to see if I would respond to red from a vendor that’s not head shop. that was my first real vendor order, in November. Liza is awesome and shipping was fast. The RHSC didn’t do anything for me, didn’t notice a difference taking it. Relaxer Elixer was similar but slightly stronger. Still not impressed. However Golden Tulip was good, didn’t knock my socks off but it’s a four color blend with white, green, yellow and bent. I will say the GT was my favorite Of those three blends. However I want to place an order today and try strictly one strain whites and greens which I usually respond well to and see what she has going.

Creekdog

I’m the same pretty much, with vein colors.

I love White vein and Green vein... because they work!
Reds are a 50/50 overall for me.

Liza’s is great.
For her blends in regards to the three you mentioned I felt the same except for the Relaxer Elixir one I have yet to try!

Her RHSC (Red Headed Step Child) for those unaware.. did something for me but nothing drastic just a wee bit (As Reds usually are for me)!!***
Golden Tulips I thought was a 11blend? Maybe I confused another blend from Liza or a diff vendor but regardless Golden Tulips was good very nice feel to it.. more than the RHSC of course but still more along the lines of a Red type feeling in general and for me.

Her Whites and Greens I’ve had excellence with.

Reds are just usually like this for me.
I do however like her Red Sulawesi, Red Pucuk.
Feels fast and subtle a White Indo White Banjo type subtlty to it so glad I get some Reds to work for me


FibonCarbor ALSO, *

I would Not be discouraged for Liza’s products.
I meant to comment the other day to you and yeah that blows that you felt nada or so from those 4.. I felt low effects from those 3/4 and felt a goos bit from the Green Zombie though!
Maybe focus on more of Liza’s strictly Green, White, and or Red, Yellow, Gold, batches?

Don’t give up though don’t stress I know the feeling believe me. Try again on those other new blends ans batches next week and so on!

Good luck to both of you
FibonCarbor

And creekdog

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Thanks Payshince! I’m going to order again and I’ll let you know what strains I try! I’m writing down all the recommendations and going to pick 8. And yeah, just those two blends I tried weren’t the best doesn’t mean Liza’s stuff wasn’t awesome! I don’t respond to red from any vendor usually. I just struck out on a few. But that’s kratom for you. I rarely see negative reviews on her, and some of the reviews on her greens sound very promising. And it blows the gas station/ head shop stuff out of the water so I’m happy with saving money for better leaf

[Ctict]

As far as quality and potency, I’ve ordered from Liza monthly since November. Once a sampler. Usually 4 strain split half kilos. Her white dragon, white slippery rock, happy go lucky and red md in dec were all great

Last month I got happy go lucky, green paragrin, white dragon and golden tulip (it’s a blend of bent, white slippery rock, green super and yellow banjo). I don’t like greens much but the paragrin was a good one. The happy go lucky was OK- not like December’s. White dragon was on point and golden tulip was excellent.

Today I’ll be receiving white Sulawesi, white Batak, red headed step child and golden tulip. I’ll post a review on them. If they are lower quality I’ll say it- however I expect the usual high quality that Liza’s always delivered.

[djulain]

Hey there, I’m new here but just wanted to share my results with Lisa, I ordered last week and like other was underwhelmed by the products I tried. The RHSC did little, HAppy go lucky did little as well, I felt nothing from the green nanga and little from the white Bali. I am opiate tolerant and have only been using kratom for 2 weeks to get off subs but the first company I tried which I found off another kratom forum hit me well. Their product also seemed fresher than Liza’s, greens and reds both looked green but effected me differently with the reds being more relaxing. They also didn’t use names but rather batch numbers. I ordered recently from inland so I’m hoping quality will be up there but I’m hesitant trying to order from Liza again and striking out, I don’t mind paying a little more for consistency

who did you order from before?

[SomethingClever]

Hey there, I’m new here but just wanted to share my results with Lisa, I ordered last week and like other was underwhelmed by the products I tried. The RHSC did little, HAppy go lucky did little as well, I felt nothing from the green nanga and little from the white Bali. I am opiate tolerant and have only been using kratom for 2 weeks to get off subs but the first company I tried which I found off another kratom forum hit me well. Their product also seemed fresher than Liza’s, greens and reds both looked green but effected me differently with the reds being more relaxing. They also didn’t use names but rather batch numbers. I ordered recently from inland so I’m hoping quality will be up there but I’m hesitant trying to order from Liza again and striking out, I don’t mind paying a little more for consistency

who did you order from before?

It was a company called re-leaf, i felt it even coming off subs, lizas stuff keeps me from withdrawing so it works but the strains i got I cant "feel" like i could re-leafs. Im not sure if theyre vendor around here ir not

[swablero]

Just a general comment: It is so damn hard to buy good Kratom. Particularly this time of year where most fresh Kratom has been harvested in the rainy season. Its like whack a mole. I've gone the route of reading a persuasive review or two, quickly ordering and been disappointed. The tyranny of the adjective, I have no doubt the original poster was sincere but we all come to it with different levels of experience, and different bodies. I'm very concerned about preserving my money and getting something usable. I would flip out if 3/4 strains were ineffective for me. If you read Balz' posts, and he's a true connoisseur, you can get a feel for all the weird variations and variables out there. Just now I tried to jump on the Socal red Cambodian boat but it was gone. Last week the same happened with Kat's. Usually, I end up back at RVA cause the hit or miss percentage is usually pretty good. Just wanted to share my sympathy with those who are having a hard time finding something they really like. I have a list of interesting vendors referenced on Facebook. But I'm never sure. There is so much unintentional bias in a community sponsored by a vendor. It's really a challenge. If anyone has figured it out let me know.