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KrateAndVape
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LIH Bentuangie

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Just want to post my initial review of LIH Tea Company's (formally "LI Herbals" or Long Island Herbals) Bentuangie (Red).

First... I ordered 6 "sample" (30g) strains from them on Sunday (to guage where they are with quality because I haven't ordered from LIH in almost 2 years). Monday at 12:53pm I received an "Your order is complete" email with tracking information. Yesterday (Wednesday) I received my order. Even though I'm in New Jersey and they evidently ship out of Delaware now (not Long Island, NY), that quick of a turnaround time impressed me since I had them ship 1st Class (not Priority mail). I expected at least one or two more days for my order to arrive. But I guess that part of it is a thumbs-up to USPS and not necessarily the vendor. Nonetheless, I was still shocked I received it that quickly. But, in LIH's favor, considering Monday is probably a day to catch-up on weekend orders, I wouldn't have complained if my order wasn't processed until Tuesday morning... although I don't know how much business they are getting at the moment. And finally, their prices are excellent (we can still talk about pricing here, right? It's been a while since I've posted to this board. If I'm wrong, I apologize. Mods, please edit if necessary. ... I know, I know, this isn't Reddit, but I just want to be sure and not blattently break any forum rules without having to go back and read the entire FAQ again since I haven't been here for a few months :)) $3.50 for most 30 gram samples. $70 for most Kilos. Although, Bentuangie is listed at only $65 for a Kilo... soooo, in retrospect, that may be a sign of what I'm about to describe with this strain. (I hadn't noticed that price per Kilo was $5 cheaper for Bent than their other strains when I ordered.)

Now onto the review of Bentuangie from LIH Tea Company (which is a Red strain, as described on their website): Here's a couple pics: Image
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Note (for those wondering): Sometimes I transfer my Kratom to other containers so I can get a better look at and "examine" the powder and also quite often it's easier to scoop-out and weigh when it's not in a bag (which is especially the case for smaller sample-sized pouches).

So, last night I tried my normal 4 gram dose with LIH's Bentuangie. I wouldn't exactly call the grind coarse, but it's not the finest grind I've seen either. The color is a little lighter shade of red than I would expect from good quality Red Vein Bentuangie (that might be the second sign). And the taste was not bad, although I've gotten used to pretty much not tasting my Kratom when I toss-n-wash. It went down easy.

After 45 minutes, I didn't feel even the slightest hint of effect (ya' know, how you can sense onset is approaching evening though it hasn't yet...). 1 hour after dosing, still nothing. My back pain was still in full effect. No shift in mood. Not even a tease of sedation. Not even a yawn. At that point I figured maybe this batch isn't as strong as what I'm used to from other vendors, so I redosed 2 more grams. That's 6 grams in 1 hour. Another hour later... NOTHING! A wasted dose(s), in my opinion. OK, fine. I chalked it up to maybe my evening / nighttime doses sometimes don't "hit" as hard as my morning doses (hell, this didn't even poke me, much less "hit" me).

To be fair, I decided to give it another chance this morning. I woke up with excruciating back pain and needed some relief. This time I started with 6 grams (2g more than my normal dose). Over an hour later, NOTHING. Now I'm desperate and probably made a stupid decision... I redosed 4 addition grams (that's a total of 10 frickin' grams in just over an hour! Which I never do! I even wrote in my notes: "I better not get sick!" (which I never have in 3 years of using Kratom). 90 minutes after that... maybe the ever so slightest of pain relief. Maybe! Well, at this point I'm really second-guessing myself. "Maybe my tolerance is screwed up." "But I need some relief here." So I tried 4 grams of tried-and-trusted "Elephant" from Kraydo Organics. That was at 9am. At 10am I wrote in my notes: "Now THAT'S how my Kratom should work!" It's now 4 hours since I dosed Kraydo's Elephant and my back pain is barely noticeable... Focus is great... Pleasant mood. You know the deal, when you take good quality Kratom.

So, in conclusion, I'm chalking-up LIH's Bentuangie to being of extremely poor quality. And I hate to say it, but I think they know it. (I'm speculating that.) Like I said, the Kilo price is cheaper and I forgot to mention, when I emptied out my 30g bag and weighed it, it was actually 38 grams. That should have been another clue. But when I weighed it I thought it was a mistake or they were just being "generous". Silly me! But thanks for the extra 8 grams. ... By the way, I weighed the other 5 unopened bags (the bag itself weighs approximately 4.5 grams). 3 of them were 1 to 2 grams over the listed amount (30g) and 2 of them were actually 1-2 grams under the listed amount. That's not a big deal to me since I realized some vendors might "scoop-out" their product rather than weigh it. Consistencies make weights vary. I get that. That just makes the "8 additional grams" of Bentuangie even more suspect, since they are pretty much spot-on with their other strains.

Anyway, I still have 5 more strains to try from this order from LIH: "Green Elephant", "Green Kali MD", "White Borneo MD", "Red Borneo MD" and "Yellow Borneo MD". I have "semi" high hopes for the Green Elephant since it's listed for $4 per 30g sample instead of their normal $3.50 for others. I'll try to have no expectations for the other four.

LIH, if you're reading this (I know you've been known to read this forum), I'm not trashing your company or your product as whole. Not yet at least. That wouldn't be fair. I haven't tried everything. And I pointed out positives too. Your bags (at least for 30g samplers) are awesome. They're sturdy. Resealing is great. Like I said, processing was prompt. Shipping was better than expected. But your Bentuangie (or "Bent", as listed on your website)... No bueno! At least in MY experience. And to be fair, I'll even try it again at some point. I'll try slightly lower than my normal dose... Maybe 3 grams next time.

In conclusion, usually I would never be this quick to post a review... especially a negative one. I usually give it much more of a chance. But I can tell that this one is just a dud... Especially when I tried a dose from another vendor and that one did what it was "supposed to do". So, I know in this case the problem is not me. I will be trying those other 5 strains, folks... Just not today. Probably not tomorrow either.

TL/DR: Has anyone else here had a similar experience with LIH's "Bent"? Please let me know... Even if it was a positive experience. I want to know. Thanks for reading (and reading... and reading... and reading.) :D
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Re: LIH Bentuangie

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Just curious, does anyone care about LIH reviews? Does anyone here use or is interested in LIH's kratom? If not, I won't bother to review the other 5 strains I recently bought from them.

I realize my review of "Bentuangie" was long. I'll try to shorten it next time. I've done plenty of Kratom reviews in the past, but decided to change the "style" for this one. If you guys like them done differently, please let me know. Any other suggestions, I'm open. Thanks.
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Re: LIH Bentuangie

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I can’t speak for anyone else, but I like reviews of any vendor. Mostly, because I try to direct people here for current info regarding kratom vendors and info. Especially for newer kratom users that have probably tried googling kratom vendors and saw the lists/reviews that pop up that are complete nonsense (like the glowing reviews of kratom crazy, coastline, kraken, etc). Or they see the Reddit vendor reviews from a year+ ago, which will also give misleading info often.
I think it is also helpful for people to see how you come to your conclusions! So I think you are doing a great service! That’s just my opinion though!
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Re: LIH Bentuangie

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Thanks for responding, DNA. I appreciate what you said. Have a great weekend! :D
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I agree with Dna. Even if no current member is looking for LIH reviews, it gets cached to google and bing, and could be useful for future lurkers or people searching google for those reviews. More information is never a bad thing, keep em coming
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Precisely what DNA and beathappening both said. Any and all info is good/useful in my eyes. Even if not for myself or right at this moment, I am sure it will be pertinent to someone at some point along they way!
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I used to buy from LIH awhile ago, at least a couple years and would also be interested in more reviews regarding their product.
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Update: Yesterday I tried LIH's Bentuangie again. After trying it last week at my normal dose (4g) and then again 150% of my normal dose (6g) with zero results, yesterday I decided to go in the opposite direction: 75% of my normal dose (3g). Unfortunately, same results: None. 3 years ago, Bentuangie (from another vendor) was the strain that really kicked my "receptors" into high-gear. I've tried it from multiple vendors in my Kratom using "career". I've always had great results... some better than others, but never "nothing". To give LIH the final benefit of the doubt, maybe I've just built a tolerance to Bent. BUT, I haven't tried it from any vendor in probably a year or so. So, I doubt tolerance is the issue. I'll try the other LIH samples I mentioned in my initial review this coming week. Most likely I'll try their Green Kali tomorrow, because Greens have been treating me very well lately and 2 years ago LIH was "famous" for their Green Kali, if memory serves me.

Lastly, I want to thank everyone who responded to my review. The positive vibes were most appreciated (and needed, even though I didn't know it initially). Don't worry, I'll keep the reviews coming. Hope everyone is having a great Memorial Day weekend (if you're in the US).
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Re: LIH Bentuangie

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Can you post that update regarding the quality of their other strains? I'm considering ordering their yellow and green atm, as I've tried them in a sampler a few months back and the quality was great; granted that did not contain any bent, but I don't generally enjoy that strain anyway...
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Re: LIH Bentuangie

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esper84 wrote:Can you post that update regarding the quality of their other strains? I'm considering ordering their yellow and green atm, as I've tried them in a sampler a few months back and the quality was great; granted that did not contain any bent, but I don't generally enjoy that strain anyway...
In short, esper84, LIH's Green Kali was the best of the bunch. Their Yellow (Borneo) and Green Elephant were good too. Their Red (Borneo) and White (Borneo) were just "ok". Not near the potency of their Green Kali but certainly not as bunk as the Bent I received. My purchase was from about a month ago. Let me know if you want the batch numbers of the Green Kali and Yellow Borneo and I'll post them so you can compare with what they currently have listed on their site. Honestly, I'd only recommend Green Kali, Yellow Borneo and perhaps Elephant. Just my opinion / experience.
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Re: LIH Bentuangie

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LIH is garbage literally garbage I threw away like almost a half k from them. It's not bad it's just not good if that makes sense?? I had green Kali red Borneo bentanquie yellow Borneo from them. It all did almost nothing. When I got some good stuff from DG I threw all that shit away. Green Kali was their least shitty strain.
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FartBlaster wrote:LIH is garbage literally garbage I threw away like almost a half k from them. It's not bad it's just not good if that makes sense?? I had green Kali red Borneo bentanquie yellow Borneo from them. It all did almost nothing. When I got some good stuff from DG I threw all that shit away. Green Kali was their least shitty strain.

That was my exact same experience as well.
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I read all reviews, too. You just saved me and probably others from buying bunk Kratom. I know just to stay away from them! Sorry you got burned.
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Re: LIH Bentuangie

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I just recieved a big bag of Bent from LIH. I scoured best I could and couldnt find much but after I pulled the trigger I found your review.
so far I'm let down.
Usually an hour in is where I feel full effect but this is very mild on my usual intake.

Did you write them by any chance? I'm curious to hear what their customer service will be like when I do. This is too big a bag to go through and I'm probably going to return it (if they let me)
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Tried upping from 6g to 8g then 10 over the course of an hour and a half. Nothing. A very faint tension in my head and very weak nausea but nothing beneficial so far

Wrote to them and am waiting to hear back.
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I'm so sorry you got some not so good leaf...Bents are finicky at best...just so you know, LIH did have really good leaf back a couple years ago...I hate to hear their sources are letting them down now. I know my words are of no help at all, but I say them to also say they were pretty nice people when I used them. Do keep trying to speak to them, maybe they will make it right for you? GOOD LUCK!

By the way, Welcome to the Double M...do some research on here, lots of GOOD Vendor info.
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Re: LIH Bentuangie

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labdog03 wrote:LIH did have really good leaf back a couple years ago... I hate to hear their sources are letting them down now.
I was just browsing, on Reddit an old Vendor List from Dec 2016 - LINK haha. The question: "Where Are They Now?" :lol:

Almost ALL those vendors from 2.5 years ago, now either GONE, or "outed" as ridiculous over-priced rip-offs (Happy Hippo, Choice, etc.). So this business has changed ? Or maybe its WE, the people, who are more sophisticated ? Hmmm :?

NOTE: Even back then, 2.5 years ago, LI Herbals was the cheapest around with $65 kilos ... Cheap ain't always good. :D
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LIH is responsible for me seeking out a more expensive premium Kratom and eventually finding DG botanicals. Because their leaf was awful but I had had happy hippo before so I knew Kratom could be good but I didn't wanna pay $15 an ounce or buy garbage
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