Double M Herbals | Kratom Forum

Posted: **Fri Sep 16, 2022 11:49 am**

i haven’t had a mood boost like this in awhile. 3 g dose and i’m happy

Posted: **Fri Sep 16, 2022 1:25 pm**

Agreed! I received mine around a week ago and have been dosing every evening with no noticeable decline in effect. 100% will be ordering more

Edit for spelling

Posted: **Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:21 pm**

I think it is also sold as a green with a different name, and has the same through the roof ratings.

Posted: **Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:32 pm**

It was in testing as Green 605

Posted: **Fri Sep 30, 2022 7:07 am**

And the one that many of us "identified" as a red.

(It was actually the second favorite of mine of all I tested).

I wish I had known they were going to label it as this, though, since all my bottles now have "605" on them and it's hard to remember it's really this (who am I kidding? There's NO WAY this old man will remember that). Probably good thing I don't have a membership or I'd end up buying a ton more of something I already have a ton of (I bought so much I have an unopened bag I'll never use - perhaps some day I'll see if I can trade it for another TFH goodness).

Posted: **Fri Sep 30, 2022 7:29 am**

Had some last night, one of my favorite “reds” in the stash right now. Cozy warm fuzzy bliss

Posted: **Fri Sep 30, 2022 3:37 pm**

Oooo time for me to place an order I'm always looking fo for great reds this sounds like something I need

Posted: **Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:21 pm**

GrannyJ62 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 3:37 pm Oooo time for me to place an order I'm always looking fo for great reds this sounds like something I need

Granny you will love it. I'm not usually a red lover but this one is so good.

Posted: **Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:32 pm**

Sigh - I guess I'll have to watch the TP for this stuff (or not, as the case might be. WAY too much FOMO).

Those of you who are TFH members - you should get down on your knees every night and thank the Lord.

Posted: **Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:37 pm**

Kelleytoons wrote: ↑Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:32 pm

Those of you who are TFH members - you should get down on your knees every night and thank the Lord.

Don't think some of us don't. lol

Posted: **Thu Oct 06, 2022 1:49 am**

Yup, God is good. He also is responsible for when the kratom doesn't hit.

Posted: **Thu Oct 06, 2022 11:23 am**

herbalhippie wrote: ↑Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:37 pm
Kelleytoons wrote: ↑Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:32 pm
Those of you who are TFH members - you should get down on your knees every night and thank the Lord.
Don't think some of us don't. lol

I mean, what TFH member doesn't? Even the atheists do it!

Posted: **Thu Oct 06, 2022 11:27 am**

instantKARMA wrote: ↑Thu Oct 06, 2022 11:23 am
herbalhippie wrote: ↑Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:37 pm
Kelleytoons wrote: ↑Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:32 pm
Those of you who are TFH members - you should get down on your knees every night and thank the Lord.
Don't think some of us don't. lol
I mean, what TFH member doesn't? Even the atheists do it!

Even the airy-fairy New Age pagans do it but we thank Universe.

Posted: **Fri Feb 03, 2023 4:28 pm**

herbalhippie wrote: ↑Thu Oct 06, 2022 11:27 am
instantKARMA wrote: ↑Thu Oct 06, 2022 11:23 am
herbalhippie wrote: ↑Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:37 pm

Don't think some of us don't. lol
I mean, what TFH member doesn't? Even the atheists do it!
Even the airy-fairy New Age pagans do it but we thank Universe.

This entire thread had me giggling. You guys

Posted: **Fri Feb 03, 2023 5:19 pm**

I guess the Lord was listening, because I got a membership (had even forgotten I wrote the above).

(I have to remember God ALWAYS answers prayers. It's just that sometimes the answer is no).

Posted: **Fri Feb 03, 2023 8:01 pm**

Whelp... I have just about given up on this batch. Red Hangat Hulu too! Baik Bali Especiale and Samarinda as well!

Nothing upon nothing upon nothing... and I fucking hate it!!

"warm and fuzzy" my nut sack!

Thanks for reading

Posted: **Fri Feb 03, 2023 8:32 pm**

Kratom will kratom, my friend. It's maddening beyond belief, but I think the mystery is what draws it to me most.

Posted: **Fri Feb 03, 2023 8:48 pm**

Loveandpeace wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2023 8:01 pm Whelp... I have just about given up on this batch. Red Hangat Hulu too! Baik Bali Especiale and Samarinda as well!
Nothing upon nothing upon nothing... and I fucking hate it!!
"warm and fuzzy" my nut sack!
Thanks for reading

Depending on the day and the mood....sometimes it can suck more than anything that has ever sucked in
the history of sucking!

I know, I've been there...

...just sayin'!

Posted: **Mon Feb 06, 2023 6:36 pm**

Loveandpeace wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2023 8:01 pm Whelp... I have just about given up on this batch. Red Hangat Hulu too! Baik Bali Especiale and Samarinda as well!

Nothing upon nothing upon nothing... and I fucking hate it!!

"warm and fuzzy" my nut sack!

Thanks for reading

Whats your dose size if you dont mind me asking?

Posted: **Mon Feb 06, 2023 6:59 pm**

Roofdog wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 6:36 pm
Loveandpeace wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2023 8:01 pm Whelp... I have just about given up on this batch. Red Hangat Hulu too! Baik Bali Especiale and Samarinda as well!

Nothing upon nothing upon nothing... and I fucking hate it!!

"warm and fuzzy" my nut sack!

Thanks for reading
Whats your dose size if you dont mind me asking?

1.3 to 1.5g of 3 different strains. Total dose size about 4.5g. I do that 3 times a day.

However, with proclaimed fire batches, I will take an initial 2g of that leaf alone and see what's up.

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2023 10:47 pm**

This one is really good. I took just 3.5g instead of 5 and it kicked hard

Posted: **Sat Mar 18, 2023 7:53 am**

One of these days I WILL be a TFH member.

(my "will in into existence" face)

Posted: **Tue Mar 28, 2023 12:11 pm**

I bought some of this strain back when it first became available, it worked well just once then pooped out. I've tried it again maybe 10 times & got absolutely no effects. I put it on the shelf & forgot about it. As time went on I was really longing for a good red, started digging through my collection, & found this strain. I brought it up from the catacombs, tried it, & ... nothing. I left it out for my son who, it turns out, loves it. Now there's only about 150g left from the kilo & I decided to try it again last night. Nothing! Tried it again this morning - EEEYYYOW! That was amazing! It's a peek-a-boo strain. I'm going to be competing with my son for the remainder of this bag for sure.

Posted: **Tue Mar 28, 2023 12:33 pm**

I'm getting ready to have a sale and I bought a - let's say - ridiculous amount of this strain. Thinking about giving up a quarter or two.

It is good though. I love it to take the edge off if I'm feeling anxious.

Posted: **Tue Mar 28, 2023 5:27 pm**

pray4peace4 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 12:11 pm I bought some of this strain back when it first became available, it worked well just once then pooped out. I've tried it again maybe 10 times & got absolutely no effects. I put it on the shelf & forgot about it. As time went on I was really longing for a good red, started digging through my collection, & found this strain. I brought it up from the catacombs, tried it, & ... nothing. I left it out for my son who, it turns out, loves it. Now there's only about 150g left from the kilo & I decided to try it again last night. Nothing! Tried it again this morning - EEEYYYOW! That was amazing! It's a peek-a-boo strain. I'm going to be competing with my son for the remainder of this bag for sure.

Unfortunately, we share a super similar story. Peak-a-boo is a clever term but it is more 'boo' than peak.

For real though -- what exactly is going on? If medicine was this fickle when I was a teen, my life would have turned out amazing!! I understand this this a first world problem but it fucking vexes me to no end!

Posted: **Tue Mar 28, 2023 6:12 pm**

herbalhippie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 12:33 pm I'm getting ready to have a sale and I bought a - let's say - ridiculous amount of this strain. Thinking about giving up a quarter or two.

It is good though. I love it to take the edge off if I'm feeling anxious.

Nice! Sharing the love! I have a bunch of stuff I really need to list now that I have all my free usps shipping supplies I'm ready to rock

Posted: **Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:32 am**

Loveandpeace wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 5:27 pm For real though -- what exactly is going on? If medicine was this fickle when I was a teen, my life would have turned out amazing!! I understand this this a first world problem but it fucking vexes me to no end!

Until and unless we ever get real, scientific studies about kratom usage (it won't happen in my lifetime) it is maddening that these effects take place (although there is a certain part of me that actually likes it - it's a bit like magic and, when it works, nothing can come close).

I still think - and only a real study would convince me otherwise - that a varying effect has a LOT more to do with other aspects of your body than the kratom does. IOW (just to take one example) if you could somehow get a reading on your bowels condition you might very well know how effective any particular dose of kratom would be. The best evidence about this is that *most* people get the best kratom experience the first one of the day (which is when *most* people have clean bowels and empty stomach). People who say "no, I know my body conditions are exactly the same and yet the exact same batch of kratom - not taken too often, mind you - works very very differently on me" amuse me no end, because there is SO much scientific evidence to show that people are VERY poor scientists and even those who journal what they eat, for example, are VERY far off from what they actually consume (which is why those kind of diet trials where the food isn't controlled by the experimenter are pretty worthless).

But, as I said, I'll never know - perhaps my grandkids will be around when the real studies are done. In the meantime it's certainly a wild ride, though.

Posted: **Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:22 pm**

Kelleytoons wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:32 am
Loveandpeace wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 5:27 pm For real though -- what exactly is going on? If medicine was this fickle when I was a teen, my life would have turned out amazing!! I understand this this a first world problem but it fucking vexes me to no end!
Until and unless we ever get real, scientific studies about kratom usage (it won't happen in my lifetime) it is maddening that these effects take place (although there is a certain part of me that actually likes it - it's a bit like magic and, when it works, nothing can come close).

I still think - and only a real study would convince me otherwise - that a varying effect has a LOT more to do with other aspects of your body than the kratom does. IOW (just to take one example) if you could somehow get a reading on your bowels condition you might very well know how effective any particular dose of kratom would be. The best evidence about this is that *most* people get the best kratom experience the first one of the day (which is when *most* people have clean bowels and empty stomach). People who say "no, I know my body conditions are exactly the same and yet the exact same batch of kratom - not taken too often, mind you - works very very differently on me" amuse me no end, because there is SO much scientific evidence to show that people are VERY poor scientists and even those who journal what they eat, for example, are VERY far off from what they actually consume (which is why those kind of diet trials where the food isn't controlled by the experimenter are pretty worthless).

But, as I said, I'll never know - perhaps my grandkids will be around when the real studies are done. In the meantime it's certainly a wild ride, though.

I've pondered the exact same things now for years. All it would take is one billionaire deciding to fund the research for the good of humanity(= the good of kratom fans). I bet it's something really simple. Vendors would probably hate the discovery, right? People wouldn't buy anywhere near as many different strains as they do now because every strain would work great! Think about that. Somebody with an analytical mind & experience with biochemistry research using human trials could likely design some experiments that we kratomites could test out & report the results.

It seems to me there's only a handful of possible reasons for this good effect variance. I've had strains that worked great for 3 straight years dosing twice a day, every day. Then when I tried a different strain, then went back to the great one, it never worked for me again. Isn't that weird? It's also indicative of something. It can't be just tolerance. Tolerance doesn't suddenly appear 3 years later all at once. Tolerance ramps up gradually. There's clues all over our daily experiences, we just have to recognize them, log them, analyze them, then have others test them out.

Posted: **Thu Apr 20, 2023 8:12 am**

Not to get too much OT here, but for a long time I've thought it had to do with the two basic factors of having clean bowels (Mr. B first started me thinking and researching this) and an empty stomach. But in the last few months I'm not so sure now - I've had some very good experiences with neither of those things being true, and many "meh" ones with them both being true.

I think *most* folks would agree the very first dose of the day is the best - but what does that mean? Does it mean that it works best after a six to eight hour break? Because that isn't always the case, either - so there are mechanisms going on that would definitely take some studies to pin down.

But don't fool yourself - the only folks who will ever do these studies are either those in the "pure" science field (namely, universities) or those with skin in the game (so, big Pharma perhaps - problem is I can't see how they could possibly make any money out of this, but there are far smarter people than I am out there). And, let's face it, nowadays even universities are seldom in it without some ability to profit.

In the meantime I sure enjoy trying to figure this out <g>.

Posted: **Thu Apr 20, 2023 12:00 pm**

34766 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 11:49 am i haven’t had a mood boost like this in awhile. 3 g dose and i’m happy

That sounds amazing, thank you!

Posted: **Tue Sep 19, 2023 10:37 pm**

Just snagged some of this secondhand - quite excited to try this one!

Posted: **Tue Sep 19, 2023 11:23 pm**

These days it's putting me to sleep. I think I'd going to add it to my bedtime blend.

Posted: **Wed Sep 20, 2023 6:11 pm**

I have gone through a whole 250 of the master-crafted red. A good solid bag of leaf does not last long in my home between my wife and me. In fact, I should probably go back and order another before it's all gone.

Posted: **Sun Sep 24, 2023 11:14 am**

Kelleytoons wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 7:07 am And the one that many of us "identified" as a red.

(It was actually the second favorite of mine of all I tested).

I wish I had known they were going to label it as this, though, since all my bottles now have "605" on them and it's hard to remember it's really this (who am I kidding? There's NO WAY this old man will remember that). Probably good thing I don't have a membership or I'd end up buying a ton more of something I already have a ton of (I bought so much I have an unopened bag I'll never use - perhaps some day I'll see if I can trade it for another TFH goodness).

May I ask who TFH is?

Posted: **Sun Sep 24, 2023 12:02 pm**

Texas Family Harvest. An invite only group known for taking feedback and performing various esoteric studies of their kratom, and having a potent, reliable, and clean feeling.

They often seek people to sample and rate kratoms they are testing. Best way to get your foot in the door to membership is to test for them. Tests take about 1 minute just to give number scores and then you can make comments, the more detailed and valuable, the better.

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