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Alright now while I did buy a few different products from them I haven’t tried them all. The kratom seems alright but the extracts just seem to be poor quality compared to my favorite. Though maybe I’m setting the standards to high. I haven’t tried the other botanicals I got from them which was black maca root, and shiljat resin. I also got their 44% extract which was honestly pretty potent it just seems like poor quality, and dosent hit like the better quality extracts I have had at least in my opinion. I doubt I would ever buy extracts from them again but I will have to test the other botanicals. They have good kratom if the dose of red jong Kong I took is any indicator but they fall short on extracts in my opinion. They have so many products it’s baffling but appreciated because many of those products are hard to find. So if their other botanicals are great I will just stay away from their extracts, and kratom powder because while good was not great. Anybody else have any opinions because beside the specialty products they carry I’ve pretty much written them off?

Everything I've heard others say is their extracts are great, the powder not so much. I'm not experienced in extracts so I can't judge quality but got a bunch for security purposes as their prices cant be beat. I read they purchase some of them from Overseas Organix. I really like their green nano x2 regular powder. I got some others that don't seem as good. They gave me a free bag of a Shamrock blend of green powder and different extracts that didn't seem to help me at all which was weird but probably should try it again. I think my body prefers good plain powder over extracts in general because it gets too used to them too fast and then it's harder for anything to work and can make you feel crappy.

Lokey wrote: ↑Tue Oct 11, 2022 11:28 am Everything I've heard others say is their extracts are great, the powder not so much. I'm not experienced in extracts so I can't judge quality but got a bunch for security purposes as their prices cant be beat. I read they purchase some of them from Overseas Organix. I really like their green nano x2 regular powder. I got some others that don't seem as good. They gave me a free bag of a Shamrock blend of green powder and different extracts that didn't seem to help me at all which was weird but probably should try it again. I think my body prefers good plain powder over extracts in general because it gets too used to them too fast and then it's harder for anything to work and can make you feel crappy.

I heard the same thing by a few others. I just ordered the first time customer pack. 250g split 2 ways and 1g of 44% extract. Instead of splitting I just got the full 250g of Super Green x2 nano. The deal was just too good to pass up.

Hope you like it, let us know. They also always give extras of samples or a little more than you ordered.

The Red 38% is incredible!!

Stu Pidasso wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 10:01 pm The Red 38% is incredible!!

Unfortunately it looks to be out of stock. I had to switch to the 44% one with 1.1% ohm (compared to 38% and 1.6%). Doesn’t work quite as well but I was able to get more than twice my normal order for the same cost

Can’t believe they sold all of that 38% glad I have some stashed for a rainy day…good stuff indeed.

Arob1000 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 4:01 pm Can’t believe they sold all of that 38% glad I have some stashed for a rainy day…good stuff indeed.

Yes I tried grabbing some. It lets you select it but then is says sold out. Lol. Hopefully more coming soon.

Roofdog wrote: ↑Wed Nov 02, 2022 8:44 am

Arob1000 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 4:01 pm Can’t believe they sold all of that 38% glad I have some stashed for a rainy day…good stuff indeed.

Yes I tried grabbing some. It lets you select it but then is says sold out. Lol. Hopefully more coming soon.

I have way more than I’ll ever use, send me a PM if you are interested in some of it…could also make a bundle for you with some leaf.

How much of a difference is 44%/1.1% 7ohm compared to 38%/1.6%. More MIT but only about 70% of the 7ohm. I’ve had samples of the 44% in the past but haven’t taken it a ton. The effects seem not quite as strong but understanding math and the relationship between MIT/7ohm it shouldn’t be *that* different so maybe it’s in my head.

It is pretty different, the 38% is great for nights while the 44% is more of a daytime extract. There are a bunch of other alkaloids in there too besides mit and 7-ohm at different concentrations.

Arob1000 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 1:09 pm It is pretty different, the 38% is great for nights while the 44% is more of a daytime extract. There are a bunch of other alkaloids in there too besides mit and 7-ohm at different concentrations.

That stinks, 38% was amazing at nights for me. I’m switching to 44% out of necessity as I’ve gotten a bit to reliant on wonderlands extracts and the 38% isn’t available. I don’t mind different effects necessarily, just trying to avoid adverse effects from switching from one to the other with different concentrations of alkaloids.

demafrost wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 1:39 pm

Arob1000 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 1:09 pm It is pretty different, the 38% is great for nights while the 44% is more of a daytime extract. There are a bunch of other alkaloids in there too besides mit and 7-ohm at different concentrations.

That stinks, 38% was amazing at nights for me. I’m switching to 44% out of necessity as I’ve gotten a bit to reliant on wonderlands extracts and the 38% isn’t available. I don’t mind different effects necessarily, just trying to avoid adverse effects from switching from one to the other with different concentrations of alkaloids.

Hopefully the 44% works well for you, everyone is different, it is still really potent but I prefer the 38%.

There are a few other options if the 44% doesn't work well for you, MitraMike (on reddit) has some high 7-ohm extracts which are better than Wonderland and All Natural Artisans (ANA) has a high 7-ohm extracts and a "red extract" see the below links.

https://allnaturalartisan.com/product/premium-emerald/
https://allnaturalartisan.com/product/p ... tragynine/

Another good extract vendor who doesn't get enough support here is Delta Extracts. They have higher quality extract than Wonderland but not the high 7-OHM.

https://www.deltaextractskratom.com

Arob1000 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 2:22 pm

demafrost wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 1:39 pm

Arob1000 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 1:09 pm It is pretty different, the 38% is great for nights while the 44% is more of a daytime extract. There are a bunch of other alkaloids in there too besides mit and 7-ohm at different concentrations.

That stinks, 38% was amazing at nights for me. I’m switching to 44% out of necessity as I’ve gotten a bit to reliant on wonderlands extracts and the 38% isn’t available. I don’t mind different effects necessarily, just trying to avoid adverse effects from switching from one to the other with different concentrations of alkaloids.

Hopefully the 44% works well for you, everyone is different, it is still really potent but I prefer the 38%.

There are a few other options if the 44% doesn't work well for you, MitraMike (on reddit) has some high 7-ohm extracts which are better than Wonderland and All Natural Artisans (ANA) has a high 7-ohm extracts and a "red extract" see the below links.

https://allnaturalartisan.com/product/premium-emerald/
https://allnaturalartisan.com/product/p ... tragynine/

Another good extract vendor who doesn't get enough support here is Delta Extracts. They have higher quality extract than Wonderland but not the high 7-OHM.

https://www.deltaextractskratom.com

Thank you for the additional suggestions! Not badly priced either

demafrost wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 3:30 pm

Arob1000 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 2:22 pm

demafrost wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 1:39 pm

That stinks, 38% was amazing at nights for me. I’m switching to 44% out of necessity as I’ve gotten a bit to reliant on wonderlands extracts and the 38% isn’t available. I don’t mind different effects necessarily, just trying to avoid adverse effects from switching from one to the other with different concentrations of alkaloids.

Hopefully the 44% works well for you, everyone is different, it is still really potent but I prefer the 38%.

There are a few other options if the 44% doesn't work well for you, MitraMike (on reddit) has some high 7-ohm extracts which are better than Wonderland and All Natural Artisans (ANA) has a high 7-ohm extracts and a "red extract" see the below links.

https://allnaturalartisan.com/product/premium-emerald/
https://allnaturalartisan.com/product/p ... tragynine/

Another good extract vendor who doesn't get enough support here is Delta Extracts. They have higher quality extract than Wonderland but not the high 7-OHM.

https://www.deltaextractskratom.com

Thank you for the additional suggestions! Not badly priced either

Nice to see you're still about dermafrost, haven't seen you here in a bit.

In case people don't know, the Wonderland Gardens 38% MIT 1.6% 7Oh is out of stock and won't be returning according to WG. The same item is also out of stock at Overseas Organix, and the hush hush word is that there are no plans to manufacture more.

If anyone is looking for an extremely clean high powered extract, my favorite is the Overseas Organix 75% which is available on their site. It is not cheap, but it always felt far better to me than the WG 38% and 44%, which seemed coarse and unrefined. I have some Delta Extracts 45% coming this week, and would love to try MitraMike's product but he has been out of pocket for awhile due to some family issues.

Well. Those 2 extracts..i really wanted. Because they were of the slower variety. Can you recommend some sedating extracts??

OriginalLHB wrote: ↑Mon Nov 21, 2022 2:27 pm In case people don't know, the Wonderland Gardens 38% MIT 1.6% 7Oh is out of stock and won't be returning according to WG. The same item is also out of stock at Overseas Organix, and the hush hush word is that there are no plans to manufacture more.

If anyone is looking for an extremely clean high powered extract, my favorite is the Overseas Organix 75% which is available on their site. It is not cheap, but it always felt far better to me than the WG 38% and 44%, which seemed coarse and unrefined. I have some Delta Extracts 45% coming this week, and would love to try MitraMike's product but he has been out of pocket for awhile due to some family issues.

This is true, but Brandon recently said he is looking for a close replacement. Not sure how close is "close", though.
MitraMike is blasting a few out of the park, but you have to be quick. I've been thinking about trying Delta, too.

I think Overseas 75% is the same 80% Moondust sold by WG.