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Oties Botanical Review by holistic influencer

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:32 am
by otiesbotanicals
Hey so videos cannot be uploaded to here so I'm going to post the video link. This is a review of products from Shawna k. It's reaaaaaally good. Kratom so strong she got sick!!!! Def check it out
I'm proud of this one


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7NaltaomKNM&t=358s#menu

Re: Oties Botanical Review by holistic influencer

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:48 pm
by BallzDeep9
otiesbotanicals wrote:This is a review of products from Shawna k. It's reaaaaaally good.
No. Just say NO to SHILL-y so-called "reviews" on YouTube by the Kratom Hoe.. She WILL "review" ANY kratom in exchange for free kratom! lol :lol:

C'mon man. Everybody knows YouTube IS The #1 Place for Kratom Bullshit - n00bs who believe anything they're told on YouTube. About 90% of everything you see about Kratom on YouTube ... is pure bullshit :mrgreen:

Let's HOPE that MM never gets infected by profiteers from Facebook and YouTube :ugeek:

Re: Oties Botanical Review by holistic influencer

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:56 pm
by otiesbotanicals
BallzDeep9 wrote:
otiesbotanicals wrote:This is a review of products from Shawna k. It's reaaaaaally good.
No. Just say NO to SHILL-y so-called "reviews" on YouTube by the Kratom Hoe.. She WILL "review" ANY kratom in exchange for free kratom! lol :lol:

C'mon man. Everybody knows YouTube IS The #1 Place for Kratom Bullshit - n00bs who believe anything they're told on YouTube. About 90% of everything you see about Kratom on YouTube ... is pure bullshit :mrgreen:

Let's HOPE that MM never gets infected by profiteers from Facebook and YouTube :ugeek:

Dude, do you sit around and stalk mm waiting for someone to post something so you can inject your expert knowledge? Cause everytime I put something up, I can count on you to have something to say. Let me ask you something, since you're the self proclaimed keeper of the list and kratom master, why haven't you gotten yourself away from your phone screen or computer monitor and started you own business since you feel the need to always comment.

Re: Oties Botanical Review by holistic influencer

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 3:31 pm
by BallzDeep9
otiesbotanicals wrote:
BallzDeep9 wrote:Dude, do you sit around and stalk mm waiting for someone to post something so you can inject your expert knowledge? Cause everytime I put something up, I can count on you
Dude, this isn't about ME - I was just giving my OPINION here. Sorry to disagree, but MM is a Message Board, where people discuss things.. I didn't attack you, but the Shawna videos on Stupid-Tube are ridiculous... She HAS and will, "review" any bullshit vendor!! :roll:

She HAS promoted some of the WORST vendors around.. and it's always positive.. Always, please buy their shit - No sorry, The Kratom Hoe is really dumb In My Opinion.... just stating my opinion here. Sorry it goes against your Promotion. You're the FIRST one, to try and use 1 of these SHILL YouTube videos to promote their leaf HERE - My response would be the same, for ANY vendor to try this.

Now... Am I the only Member here, who thinks YouTube is full of shit ... err, SHILL videos? Fine, that's still my opinion!! I HOPE, I really hope, we don't get invaded here by bunches of idiots from YouTube! :lol:

You posted this under Reviews. It's NOT a review, it's Advertising... May I suggest you Reply to the TOPIC - not do a personal jump on ME? When I posted last week, that you'd been unfairly attacked by the S.R. idiots from Facebook... you were ALL in agreement with me remember? :mrgreen:

Re: Oties Botanical Review by holistic influencer

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 3:41 pm
by otiesbotanicals
BallzDeep9 wrote:
otiesbotanicals wrote:
BallzDeep9 wrote:Dude, do you sit around and stalk mm waiting for someone to post something so you can inject your expert knowledge? Cause everytime I put something up, I can count on you
Dude, this isn't about ME - I was just giving my OPINION here. Sorry to disagree, but MM is a Message Board, where people discuss things.. I didn't attack you, but the Shawna videos on Stupid-Tube are ridiculous... She HAS and will, "review" any bullshit vendor!! :roll:

She HAS promoted some of the WORST vendors around.. and it's always positive.. Always, please buy their shit - No sorry, The Kratom Hoe is really dumb In My Opinion.... just stating my opinion here. Sorry it goes against your Promotion. You're the FIRST one, to try and use 1 of these SHILL YouTube videos to promote their leaf HERE - My response would be the same, for ANY vendor to try this.

Now... Am I the only Member here, who thinks YouTube is full of shit ... err, SHILL videos? Fine, that's still my opinion!! I HOPE, I really hope, we don't get invaded here by bunches of idiots from YouTube! :lol:

You posted this under Reviews. It's NOT a review, it's Advertising... May I suggest you Reply to the TOPIC - not do a personal jump on ME? When I posted last week, that you'd been unfairly attacked by the S.R. idiots from Facebook... you were ALL in agreement with me remember? :mrgreen:

I don't care about what she's done, has been done, or is going to do when it comes to reviews. Nor do I care much for the opinion on somebody who isn't a customer regarding anything I do business wise. But to start throwing names on people because YOU don't agree with something they do or say it's pretty young of you. Are we 13 years old again??????? And her review of my product is VALID. I have nothing but good reviews before this so it is nothing to do with her motives or anything like that. And no I wasn't in agreeance with you. You have me push back about the GMP thing, and others were basically like what the fuck is he talking about. Like I said, all you do is talk shit, and say it's your opinion. Which may be true. Gotta love being behind a keyboard or phone screen. It's great. You should explore your surroundings. Do some things for a change. You might find that you like it. Instead of waiting for people to post things and injecting negativity any chance you get.

Re: Oties Botanical Review by holistic influencer

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 3:42 pm
by otiesbotanicals
On that not I am done. I will keep running my business the way j do and make my way to the top. Good day balls deep or whatever your name is

Re: Oties Botanical Review by holistic influencer

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:34 pm
by trigger
To be fair... this video “review” is 3 and a half minutes of her talking about throwing up followed by rambling about being a marketing firm ceo and your packaging. And I don’t think it’s that positive of a review saying it’s so strong her normal dose made her vomit. Not everyone equates “strong” with “good.”

That White Indo is pretty strong, but it’s not wobbles inducing. It’s actually clean and balanced for a white. Her review made it sound like an aggressive white - and some people might think that’s not a good time.

But anyway, it’s not good form for a vendor to post other people’s reviews of their own products. It looks kinda shilly. We don’t know who this person is or how this review came about. This community is more about just recommending things to each other naturally and organically.

Ballz is knowledgeable and passionate about this subject, and he can come off pretty abrasive at times, but he just cares a lot about this community. He was probably just being protective - you shouldn’t take it personally. I don’t think you meant any harm either, and I don’t think you meant to look like you were shilling. But yeah, this review stinks.

Re: Oties Botanical Review by holistic influencer

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:47 pm
by otiesbotanicals
Lol I'm not taking it personally one bit. It's only every time in post something. And I disagree. She made a review about my product which is a good one. Yes, she said alot of stuff. But what I like is this she said that my product was good. Still not a reason to hop on everything I post giving me pushback. Passionate or bored. Or maybe both

Re: Oties Botanical Review by holistic influencer

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:57 pm
by otiesbotanicals
trigger wrote:To be fair... this video “review” is 3 and a half minutes of her talking about throwing up followed by rambling about being a marketing firm ceo and your packaging. And I don’t think it’s that positive of a review saying it’s so strong her normal dose made her vomit. Not everyone equates “strong” with “good.”

That White Indo is pretty strong, but it’s not wobbles inducing. It’s actually clean and balanced for a white. Her review made it sound like an aggressive white - and some people might think that’s not a good time.

But anyway, it’s not good form for a vendor to post other people’s reviews of their own products. It looks kinda shilly. We don’t know who this person is or how this review came about. This community is more about just recommending things to each other naturally and organically.

Ballz is knowledgeable and passionate about this subject, and he can come off pretty abrasive at times, but he just cares a lot about this community. He was probably just being protective - you shouldn’t take it personally. I don’t think you meant any harm either, and I don’t think you meant to look like you were shilling. But yeah, this review stinks.

Got a review, was proud of it. So I shared it with the people. Strike me dead :lol: . Still I don't see a reason why everytime I'm on here he gives me a hard time

Re: Oties Botanical Review by holistic influencer

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:13 pm
by brave777
Never tried oties, might in the future. I never call youtube full of shit. Its full of good as well, its where your nose at currently, watching kardashiens or working on yours car trying to figure how to change breaks and rotors which i just done recently. Some videos are gold. But if meant about kratom reviews from youtube i would agree with ballz more. I seen so many videos and it seems everyone who does reviews these days on youtube related to some kratom vendor to generate more income. Not always true thought because there are random people doing reviews but we dont know how many years she used kratom, how much she takes each day, what color. Usually if 3 years or less experienced users i am still wary, i try to look for 5+ years users who know more what they talking about and tried many vendors, can notice little niches here and their to share about strains. I think all newer vendors will try to leave bunk out to promote name, once customer base built who knows what they going to do with their bunks. I personally never watch youtube and kratom reviews on it, I like it strait out people opinions here on Double M who had more then 100 comments. I am carefull of new users. not that i dont believe them butthey might make 2 or 3 posts a years and expect people to click and buy their favorite bag who knows if their secret vendors friends doing or what. Has to be a regular everyday user, real person. I dont think oties should be mad in any way at ballz, cause his opinion is valid as well. I hear a lot about oties having good kratom but have respect for elders, shows great leadership instead of iam DONE attitude. If you know you have good kratom, people will come, i dont think we need try hard to seek out good reviews for your self, let people speak of it. I like to order from people i think have very cool personality and trow a candy or 2 with their order. it goes a long way, smiley picked it up on that long time ago, that one mango and peanut chew candy always made me SMILEY. :)

Re: Oties Botanical Review by holistic influencer

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:29 pm
by otiesbotanicals
brave777 wrote:Never tried oties, might in the future. I never call youtube full of shit. Its full of good as well, its where your nose at currently, watching kardashiens or working on yours car trying to figure how to change breaks and rotors which i just done recently. Some videos are gold. But if meant about kratom reviews from youtube i would agree with ballz more. I seen so many videos and it seems everyone who does reviews these days on youtube related to some kratom vendor to generate more income. Not always true thought because there are random people doing reviews but we dont know how many years she used kratom, how much she takes each day, what color. Usually if 3 years or less experienced users i am still wary, i try to look for 5+ years users who know more what they talking about and tried many vendors, can notice little niches here and their to share about strains. I think all newer vendors will try to leave bunk out to promote name, once customer base built who knows what they going to do with their bunks. I personally never watch youtube and kratom reviews on it, I like it strait out people opinions here on Double M who had more then 100 comments. I am carefull of new users. not that i dont believe them butthey might make 2 or 3 posts a years and expect people to click and buy their favorite bag who knows if their secret vendors friends doing or what. Has to be a regular everyday user, real person. I dont think oties should be mad in any way at ballz, cause his opinion is valid as well. I hear a lot about oties having good kratom but have respect for elders, shows great leadership instead of iam DONE attitude. If you know you have good kratom, people will come, i dont think we need try hard to seek out good reviews for your self, let people speak of it. I like to order from people i think have very cool personality and trow a candy or 2 with their order. it goes a long way, smiley picked it up on that long time ago, that one mango and peanut chew candy always made me SMILEY. :)


Don't mistake me for being mad. I'm not at all lol I just think it's dumb that every time I post something he hops on giving me push back about the dumbest stuff. And I'm supposed to "respect" that. Was talking to a customer about becoming GMP certified soon. He goes off about how I got my info from fb, I'm modeling my business after bad business, why would I want to do this that, all this extra shit. And now this. Theres or to it than just this post

Re: Oties Botanical Review by holistic influencer

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:33 pm
by otiesbotanicals
What is there to respect from somebody when it seems like all they do is wait for people to give him an opportunity to bring negativity to whatever it may be? And then disguise it as "I'm just stating my opinion". Not only that, but than to insult somebody, that isn't even here to defend themselves?? I know how to give my opinion and constructive criticism to people in a respectful way, and I sure as hell don't insult people when they're not around.

Re: Oties Botanical Review by holistic influencer

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:36 pm
by brave777
otiesbotanicals wrote:
brave777 wrote:Never tried oties, might in the future. I never call youtube full of shit. Its full of good as well, its where your nose at currently, watching kardashiens or working on yours car trying to figure how to change breaks and rotors which i just done recently. Some videos are gold. But if meant about kratom reviews from youtube i would agree with ballz more. I seen so many videos and it seems everyone who does reviews these days on youtube related to some kratom vendor to generate more income. Not always true thought because there are random people doing reviews but we dont know how many years she used kratom, how much she takes each day, what color. Usually if 3 years or less experienced users i am still wary, i try to look for 5+ years users who know more what they talking about and tried many vendors, can notice little niches here and their to share about strains. I think all newer vendors will try to leave bunk out to promote name, once customer base built who knows what they going to do with their bunks. I personally never watch youtube and kratom reviews on it, I like it strait out people opinions here on Double M who had more then 100 comments. I am carefull of new users. not that i dont believe them butthey might make 2 or 3 posts a years and expect people to click and buy their favorite bag who knows if their secret vendors friends doing or what. Has to be a regular everyday user, real person. I dont think oties should be mad in any way at ballz, cause his opinion is valid as well. I hear a lot about oties having good kratom but have respect for elders, shows great leadership instead of iam DONE attitude. If you know you have good kratom, people will come, i dont think we need try hard to seek out good reviews for your self, let people speak of it. I like to order from people i think have very cool personality and trow a candy or 2 with their order. it goes a long way, smiley picked it up on that long time ago, that one mango and peanut chew candy always made me SMILEY. :)


Don't mistake me for being mad. I'm not at all lol I just think it's dumb that every time I post something he hops on giving me push back about the dumbest stuff. And I'm supposed to "respect" that. Was talking to a customer about becoming GMP certified soon. He goes off about how I got my info from fb, I'm modeling my business after bad business, why would I want to do this that, all this extra shit. And now this. Theres or to it than just this post
Yeah i understand you. GMP at low price sounds great especially under 100 bucks, will def knock down those expensive once on the list. I cant say much on it because iam dull on it, dont know if its good or bad. there are both sides of the coin, very heated issue. Much luck to you.

Edit: Me personally as a consumer, hate GMP because it eats your pay check and dont guarantee quality leaf. Thats why i respect ballz list.

Re: Oties Botanical Review by holistic influencer

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:40 pm
by otiesbotanicals
Thank you my friend

Re: Oties Botanical Review by holistic influencer

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:30 pm
by herbalhippie
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