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I don't know which batch I got in a trade recently, but it was my first time trying Green Bone. I took some at lunch, and was headed to home Depot, once I got there it kicked in.. and rocked my world. All the sudden I realized I felt super warm, like starting in my toes working it's way up. And then got hit with a smattering of euphoria and intense mood lift. I felt so rediculiusly happy I wanted to call all my friends and tell them how much I loved them. It's probably the Best I've ever felt from kratom. Taking it subsequent times after nothing much has changed. I'm trying not take it too much because I want it to stay fresh but man this stuff hits. If the rest of SOSA or Dennette's other stuff is similar in potency I absolutely can't wait to try it.

Side note just so I don't have to post another long thread: I've been taking a bunch of Rhino for the first time lately and I think he may be my new ho to vendor besides botanical bunny. Everything I've gotten from Rhino has hit. It's all been fantastic. I got some super green Malay (sold out now I'm afraid) from him a couple weeks ago and man that would probably be a close second to the green bone.

To clarify, who's green bone are you talking about? Denette's GB is likely from an entirely different source than sosa's. Cannot wait for D to get the bones (esp the red) back in stock. I haven't had Sosa in awhile, but D's bone strains are miles above what Sosa had a year ago, for whatever that's worth.

Damen ck wrote:To clarify, who's green bone are you talking about? Denette's GB is likely from an entirely different source than sosa's. Cannot wait for D to get the bones (esp the red) back in stock. I haven't had Sosa in awhile, but D's bone strains are miles above what Sosa had a year ago, for whatever that's worth.

I wouldn't really say that D's are miles above SOSA's.... They are just different types of burns is all. The SOSA Agus Bone strains are also high quality and have been fan favorites for many including myself. In fact, I have some Agus Green Bone F3 that I have hoarded and bust out now and then still!!

Ya Denettes Green Bone is one of my favorite greens ever. Its right up there with his Green Fire. I actually ran out of D's Green Bone month or 2 ago. Or so i thought...
Last night i was goin through a bunch of empty bags to throw them away and what do ya know... I see my Green Bone bag and went to throw it out but noticed it wasn't quite empty. Through it on the scale and Pow!! 5.2 grams of Green Bone to my surprise. Its better than i remembered. Hope his guy comes through sooner than later on the restock.
SOSAs greens don't compare in my opinion. SOSAs reds on the other hand? Different story. I haven't found a vendor yet thats as consistent as SOSA with extremely potent reds...

acejestyr15 wrote:

Damen ck wrote:To clarify, who's green bone are you talking about? Denette's GB is likely from an entirely different source than sosa's. Cannot wait for D to get the bones (esp the red) back in stock. I haven't had Sosa in awhile, but D's bone strains are miles above what Sosa had a year ago, for whatever that's worth.

I wouldn't really say that D's are miles above SOSA's.... They are just different types of burns is all. The SOSA Agus Bone strains are also high quality and have been fan favorites for many including myself. In fact, I have some Agus Green Bone F3 that I have hoarded and bust out now and then still!!

I agree with Ace.
Sosa’s or (Agus’) Green Bones have been fantastic in the past. I think I loaded up on the F5. It was a sweet, slow, euphoric Green.
I got some of Denette’s GB in a trade and it was good as well - a different feel than Sosa’s, but definitely not miles ahead.

quote="Damen ck"]To clarify, who's green bone are you talking about? Denette's GB is likely from an entirely different source than sosa's. Cannot wait for D to get the bones (esp the red) back in stock. I haven't had Sosa in awhile, but D's bone strains are miles above what Sosa had a year ago, for whatever that's worth.[/quote]

Dennette and Sosa get their green and red bone from the same supplier.

What'd you guys think of D's green fire?

Spencemastaflex wrote:
Dennette and Sosa get their green and red bone from the same supplier.

What'd you guys think of D's green fire?

How do you know they get their Bone strains from same supplier??? Cuzzzz far as I know, that's actually not the case, but I could be wrong....

Yeah I'd like some clarification on that as well. If that's true, then the quality of the bones changed quite a bit between the time I had sosa's to the time I had Denette's. The burns were totally different. I'm not saying sosa's was garbage, but to me, Denette's was in another league, worked way better for me. So I'm skeptical that they're the same.

As for the green fire, I'll let you know later this week

They both order from the supplier known as AGUS. Same exact supplier. They do have different batches sometimes (f3, f4, F5, etc)

Spencemastaflex wrote:They both order from the supplier known as AGUS. Same exact supplier. They do have different batches sometimes (f3, f4, F5, etc)

How do you know they order from same supplier???

I dont normally reveal supplier info but the "bone strain" is very unique. I use Agus but cannot speak for Sosa. There is variability between batches but I will say hes typically very consistent

Denette615 wrote:I dont normally reveal supplier info but the "bone strain" is very unique. I use Agus but cannot speak for Sosa. There is variability between batches but I will say hes typically very consistent

Thank you for the info, wasn't looking for you to divulge anything!! I didn't realize your bone batches were Agus... SOSA most certainly uses Agus to supply Bone strains as well. Interesting... As you said different batches and different drying methods create many variables.

I know Ace

Figured Id just let folks know. I figure if they can get some from Sosa while I'm out, thatd be great!

D

Jeez, told you guys. Lol. Thanks for chiming in Dennette! I'm looking forward to trying more of your leaf! I've been very very impressed with what I've tried so far! Thank you!

Well, that's good to know. Still not ready to take a chance on Sosa after the most recent episode, but that's another story. I still want to try that baik bali. The red bone I got from Sosa a year or so ago was nowhere near the one I got from Denette earlier this year, -which was also better than any strain I've had from Sosa....even the red sunda....it's crazy how much each batch changes

Spence- since you're in the know with Sosa, is his baik bali the same as Smiley's?

So is sosa on the up and up now or no?

Glad you enjoyed my sample Spence dennette's leaf is super amazing. Need to get more soon.

BTW I've had sosa agus green bone 17 and it wasn't anywhere near as good as denettes. Just saying.

Spencemastaflex wrote:I don't know which batch I got in a trade recently, but it was my first time trying Green Bone. I took some at lunch, and was headed to home Depot, once I got there it kicked in.. and rocked my world. All the sudden I realized I felt super warm, like starting in my toes working it's way up. And then got hit with a smattering of euphoria and intense mood lift. I felt so rediculiusly happy I wanted to call all my friends and tell them how much I loved them. It's probably the Best I've ever felt from kratom. Taking it subsequent times after nothing much has changed. I'm trying not take it too much because I want it to stay fresh but man this stuff hits. If the rest of SOSA or Dennette's other stuff is similar in potency I absolutely can't wait to try it.

Side note just so I don't have to post another long thread: I've been taking a bunch of Rhino for the first time lately and I think he may be my new ho to vendor besides botanical bunny. Everything I've gotten from Rhino has hit. It's all been fantastic. I got some super green Malay (sold out now I'm afraid) from him a couple weeks ago and man that would probably be a close second to the green bone.

I had this happen to me a few years back before I quit kratom until a few days ago, ONE TIME! It was a green vein borneo from a vendor I can't even remember, and it was probably the best feeling I have ever had in my entire life. I am actually now getting back into Kratom, trying to find a strain like that and then stock the hell up on it.

Also, you mentioned Botanical Bunny. I placed an order and now saw a few guys say the Premium MD lot 12 batch 1811 was garbage. Did you try any of this? How was it for you? And what exact vendor was the green bone from you are mentioning?

Beastmode wrote:BTW I've had sosa agus green bone 17 and it wasn't anywhere near as good as denettes. Just saying.

What vendor is denettes? Can't find it by googling

Back2K wrote:

Beastmode wrote:BTW I've had sosa agus green bone 17 and it wasn't anywhere near as good as denettes. Just saying.

What vendor is denettes? Can't find it by googling

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Back2K wrote:

Spencemastaflex wrote:I don't know which batch I got in a trade recently, but it was my first time trying Green Bone. I took some at lunch, and was headed to home Depot, once I got there it kicked in.. and rocked my world. All the sudden I realized I felt super warm, like starting in my toes working it's way up. And then got hit with a smattering of euphoria and intense mood lift. I felt so rediculiusly happy I wanted to call all my friends and tell them how much I loved them. It's probably the Best I've ever felt from kratom. Taking it subsequent times after nothing much has changed. I'm trying not take it too much because I want it to stay fresh but man this stuff hits. If the rest of SOSA or Dennette's other stuff is similar in potency I absolutely can't wait to try it.

Side note just so I don't have to post another long thread: I've been taking a bunch of Rhino for the first time lately and I think he may be my new ho to vendor besides botanical bunny. Everything I've gotten from Rhino has hit. It's all been fantastic. I got some super green Malay (sold out now I'm afraid) from him a couple weeks ago and man that would probably be a close second to the green bone.

I had this happen to me a few years back before I quit kratom until a few days ago, ONE TIME! It was a green vein borneo from a vendor I can't even remember, and it was probably the best feeling I have ever had in my entire life. I am actually now getting back into Kratom, trying to find a strain like that and then stock the hell up on it.

Also, you mentioned Botanical Bunny. I placed an order and now saw a few guys say the Premium MD lot 12 batch 1811 was garbage. Did you try any of this? How was it for you? And what exact vendor was the green bone from you are mentioning?

The exact vendors green bone I have is Dennette's. And Botanical Bunny is a FANTASTIC vendor and have always been very kind to me. That being said, pmd batch 1811 was very bad haha. I recommend their new #2004 batch.

Damen ck wrote:Well, that's good to know. Still not ready to take a chance on Sosa after the most recent episode, but that's another story. I still want to try that baik bali. The red bone I got from Sosa a year or so ago was nowhere near the one I got from Denette earlier this year, -which was also better than any strain I've had from Sosa....even the red sunda....it's crazy how much each batch changes

Spence- since you're in the know with Sosa, is his baik bali the same as Smiley's?

I actually don't know anything about smiley. I've ordered from him once and it didn't quite click for me

Tree wrote:So is sosa on the up and up now or no?

I recently got an order in 3 days..works for me.

Spencemastaflex wrote:

Back2K wrote:

Spencemastaflex wrote:I don't know which batch I got in a trade recently, but it was my first time trying Green Bone. I took some at lunch, and was headed to home Depot, once I got there it kicked in.. and rocked my world. All the sudden I realized I felt super warm, like starting in my toes working it's way up. And then got hit with a smattering of euphoria and intense mood lift. I felt so rediculiusly happy I wanted to call all my friends and tell them how much I loved them. It's probably the Best I've ever felt from kratom. Taking it subsequent times after nothing much has changed. I'm trying not take it too much because I want it to stay fresh but man this stuff hits. If the rest of SOSA or Dennette's other stuff is similar in potency I absolutely can't wait to try it.

Side note just so I don't have to post another long thread: I've been taking a bunch of Rhino for the first time lately and I think he may be my new ho to vendor besides botanical bunny. Everything I've gotten from Rhino has hit. It's all been fantastic. I got some super green Malay (sold out now I'm afraid) from him a couple weeks ago and man that would probably be a close second to the green bone.

I had this happen to me a few years back before I quit kratom until a few days ago, ONE TIME! It was a green vein borneo from a vendor I can't even remember, and it was probably the best feeling I have ever had in my entire life. I am actually now getting back into Kratom, trying to find a strain like that and then stock the hell up on it.

Also, you mentioned Botanical Bunny. I placed an order and now saw a few guys say the Premium MD lot 12 batch 1811 was garbage. Did you try any of this? How was it for you? And what exact vendor was the green bone from you are mentioning?

The exact vendors green bone I have is Dennette's. And Botanical Bunny is a FANTASTIC vendor and have always been very kind to me. That being said, pmd batch 1811 was very bad haha. I recommend their new #2004 batch.

Like I may as well throw it in the fkn trash bad? That sucks. Everyone was saying “botanical bunny PMD is amazing best leaf ever” , wasn’t a member yet, ordered some and now hear my batch “is garbage” from multiple people. Very dissapointing... at least I got a TFH order in...

People have been saying the 18 batch was bad for a while.... but sometimes whats bad for others is good for you, so you never know it may work fine. Don't placebo yourself into thinking it's bad cause others have said so.

Exactly what Kurtis said, back2k, just try it you may like it. Their pmd is usually great, that was just a not so good batch. You can always order the other batch! Last I checked they still had some

CatfatherB wrote:

Tree wrote:So is sosa on the up and up now or no?

I recently got an order in 3 days..works for me.

I am very interested to know how those new Sosa strains are......

conscious_conundrum wrote:

CatfatherB wrote:

Tree wrote:So is sosa on the up and up now or no?

I recently got an order in 3 days..works for me.

I am very interested to know how those new Sosa strains are......

WMD and red Indo are as good as ever, whoever makes his reds are a damn artist!

White Vein Borneo, Red Vein Borneo and Super Gold (all string-dried batches from Jan. 2020) are all excellent strains for me. I’m very happy with my first SOSA order overall.

acejestyr15 wrote:

Damen ck wrote:To clarify, who's green bone are you talking about? Denette's GB is likely from an entirely different source than sosa's. Cannot wait for D to get the bones (esp the red) back in stock. I haven't had Sosa in awhile, but D's bone strains are miles above what Sosa had a year ago, for whatever that's worth.

I wouldn't really say that D's are miles above SOSA's.... They are just different types of burns is all. The SOSA Agus Bone strains are also high quality and have been fan favorites for many including myself. In fact, I have some Agus Green Bone F3 that I have hoarded and bust out now and then still!!

I also have some Agus Green Bone F3 put away for a rainy day! I was with Sosa consistently for almost 2 years so I've tried just about every strain Ben has ever put out I can can only remember being disappointed once or twice. Great leaf and great service! Blessings!

I received an order of D615's green bone last week after reading so many positive reviews on here and was disappointed. I tried it a few times and it didn't really do much for me.

On the other hand, he sent a sample of his green fire and holy shit was that amazing.

Maybe I'll try the green bone again today. I'm a bit reluctant to though because I don't want to ruin a dose.

I didn't know he got the green bone back! Oh shirt.

I did get some of that green fire though.. haven't made my mind up yet it hasn't wowed me but I always try new strains more than once to get a feel for them. Sometimes strains don't really "hit" until a few times in. Sometimes it'll take weeks, partly because my inventory is so large right now. If you get a chance to get more green bone or better yet redbone, sefinitely hop on that train. The redbone from January or so was amazing, not being hyperbolic but seriously some of the best leaf I've had

Also just got some green Rhino strains to try as well

I do not have green bone back in stock. I will occasionally throw in a sample from my personal inventory but the supplier is still not shipping.

Apologize the fire was a miss for you. Ive had I overwhelming positive feedback on it....

I just tried Sosa's Green Horn I got in Trading Post and wow!..This stuff hits nice. I dont really get euphoria anymore but I did with this. I'm def getting a big bag of it hopefully its the same batch

Denette615 wrote:I do not have green bone back in stock. I will occasionally throw in a sample from my personal inventory but the supplier is still not shipping.

Apologize the fire was a miss for you. Ive had I overwhelming positive feedback on it....

Nah don't be sorry. I haven't even given a final word on it yet. This week's been kind of crazy so I've had a hard time gauging Kratom like I usually would against the completely normal calm backdrop. Plus a normal sleep schedule seems to be a must to be able to gauge I have been sorely lacking that. I have so many strains at the moment that it's hard to develop opinions it might be weeks before I get done with everything. I've never been the kind to try one strain of Kratom once and give an opinion on it it's more of a cumulative thing.

I got 200g of green fire, if I get through 100 without a good few burns I'll put the rest up on the trading post it for someone else to enjoy. That might take a while though.

Damen ck wrote:

Denette615 wrote:I do not have green bone back in stock. I will occasionally throw in a sample from my personal inventory but the supplier is still not shipping.

Apologize the fire was a miss for you. Ive had I overwhelming positive feedback on it....

Nah don't be sorry. I haven't even given a final word on it yet. This week's been kind of crazy so I've had a hard time gauging Kratom like I usually would against the completely normal calm backdrop. Plus a normal sleep schedule seems to be a must to be able to gauge I have been sorely lacking that. I have so many strains at the moment that it's hard to develop opinions it might be weeks before I get done with everything. I've never been the kind to try one strain of Kratom once and give an opinion on it it's more of a cumulative thing.

I got 200g of green fire, if I get through 100 without a good few burns I'll put the rest up on the trading post it for someone else to enjoy. That might take a while though.

Damen, here is my experience with Green Fire.

Ok, there are few things i want to share about green fire. Its in fact not for everyone and not everyone will feel much from it. Lets start by saying, for who is green fire good? Then i will go to for who the green fire is bad... Those who have proper breaks and caps between doses, least 12 hours to 24 it will be god send, it melts any discomfort you may experience into the skys and becomes nice 10/10 like buzz in ears is felt, it has a slow but strong build up kick, after my 15 hour break i noticed its started to kick in around 20 min mark and completes in a full hour. Now for those who do it often and a lot, this will be trash for many reasons, it might even be 1/10 for you because of crazy wobbles and headache where you have to go and lay down. May i say this is only has to be taken after a nice break? What no one talks here is, some kratom never stacks good on top of other kratom and best to be taken alone or if you do stack it or blend it, add very very little of it like less then a gram. When you stack green fire, i had this happen twice, i had very bad experience and when i did 12+ break, Green Fire was a God experience... I think this is where all the body chemistry confusion kicks in??? I said this before, its how often you dose. I honestly believe those who dose everyday and often should not be considered a true review but should be looked at as an anecdote and some truth might be in it, from now on i take green fire only after a long break. I bet if you guys follow this steps and protocols i posted here, you will enjoy it a lot. Do no stack and take less for green fire, instead of 6g i took 4g after a 12+ hour break. Not sure if anyone else had this experience but who else gets buzz going in the ears when its at full peak? I also noticed it clumps up in a drink a lot and what i usually do is break it in my mouth, it feels like gel going flat then i chase it with water/milk, i know its nasty but has to be done fast. I do this in hopes it don't clump up in my stomach, chokolet or milk is perfect way to get it suspended evenly in a drink when shaken or mixed but green fire always has some green gel like build up on bottom of cup and taste is very strong.

Just side tip: dont forget to push your break to the limit to feel some discomfort, some pain, some fatigue some bone pain, what ever shows up. When you feel that, then its perfect time to dose and you will feel your true effects from kratom 100%. Some just never push them self's and sometimes all kratom becomes same effects for them because the difference between the batch was never given a chance for your system to be clean of kratom least 12 or 24 hours. My opinion. Peace.

O...k. not sure I got everything you said there. Pushing yourself?

Damen ck wrote:O...k. not sure I got everything you said there. Pushing yourself?

I ll make it short, its a bad kratom stack, that means if you had kratom you cant add this dose on top in a short period of time, it works best if you give 12+ hours and it does work very good. I tried twice, 4 hours since last dose and did not have a good result, had a headache and had to lay down. I tried after 14 hours since last dose and the best burn ever. Hit all the bells. And yes if you pushing yourself not to take kratom longer, green fire works the best.

Huh, hadn't thought about it like that. I'll try that the next time I try the green fire. Does something similar happened for other greens? Or for that matter, completely different strains from different vendors?