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You guys are awesome here! Discovered kratom beginning of this year, it’s a total godsend. MM is enormously helpful, so I figured I’d put in my dues with a quick review for Botanical Bunny. I’ve only tried one other vendor, so take my review for whatever it’s worth.

Wild Green (Lot 14): first thing I noticed, the color is beautiful. I know I’m just gonna choke it down, but still. Style points. Very balanced with predictable results...not too fast or too slow. I’m partial to greens, and right now it’s my go-to for regular daytime use. Decent pain relief, and was great for my mood and socializing.

White Dayak (Lot 17): another reviewer mentioned before that this is a pretty straightforward white, and that’s exactly the case. You get lots of good clean energy without jitters, restlessness, or a harsh crash. Unfortunately for me I got minimal pain relief and no mood boost, which is one of my major reasons for enjoying kratom. If taken after 2pm it really messes up my sleep. However, it makes a great addition to any blend that could use a pick me up, or if my day is really dragging.

Red Bali (Lot 18): great pain and anxiety relief. Although it’s not sedating, I prefer it for the afternoon as opposed to the morning. Very good if you’re winding down the day but still have some things to do. It’s effects are pretty mellow as well so it’s nice if you’re going for a lighter touch.

Overall, I can see why so many people recommend them. While the results weren’t anything to go crazy over, they were pretty reliable. So I’ll definitely be keeping them in my regular rotation.

BB was my very first vendor, only a month and a half ago now... time flies

I haven't tried the other three you reviewed, but I do have the Red Bali. Glad it's working for you!

Just got an order today from Botanical Bunny. Got quite a few Reds and I'll say the Wild Red is really good. It's nice and relaxing in the evening. Just had some and enjoying my night. I also got Red Bali which was my first ever favorite Kratom back when I first bought Kratom like 6 years ago.
But yes the Wild Red is great! Batch # 14
I mixed his Wild Red with some Black Bali which is a triple fermented Red Bali.

Word is.. once in a while: BB puts out something legendary. I was fortunate to get some of that in 2018, maybe late '17 when I bought from BB. Green JK, Yellow and Green Bent. (I keep bringing this up for some reason) In the top 7 I've ever had over 5 years. None of the red bents I've tried or anything else has come close to those two. Same for the Grn JongKong despite having some good ones since.
A lot of very good kratom coming from our TX vendors! Going downstairs to get one of those deliveries right now.

Other thing is I have good memories of my visits Corpus Christie, where they are located. So long ago and far away that it hurts.

Although they are out, I swear my life on the perfection that was (that is) Premium Wild Red. I stocked up when I had the chance, and I need to contact BB and ask when/if it is returning.

Transformato wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:03 pm Word is.. once in a while: BB puts out something legendary. I was fortunate to get some of that in 2018, maybe late '17 when I bought from BB. Green JK, Yellow and Green Bent. (I keep bringing this up for some reason) In the top 7 I've ever had over 5 years. None of the red bents I've tried or anything else has come close to those two. Same for the Grn JongKong despite having some good ones since.
A lot of very good kratom coming from our TX vendors! Going downstairs to get one of those deliveries right now.

Other thing is I have good memories of my visits Corpus Christie, where they are located. So long ago and far away that it hurts.

I have one batch of BB green Jong Kong that’s from around 2017 that is absolutely one of the best I ever had. I’ve bought their green Jong Kong many times since and never comes close.

Also BB is in Houston not Corpus, but I too have fond memories of visiting corpus.

WhiteAngelica wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:42 pm Although they are out, I swear my life on the perfection that was (that is) Premium Wild Red. I stocked up when I had the chance, and I need to contact BB and ask when/if it is returning.

I just got mine in. Thank you so much for recommending that.

Ben wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 9:12 pm

WhiteAngelica wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:42 pm Although they are out, I swear my life on the perfection that was (that is) Premium Wild Red. I stocked up when I had the chance, and I need to contact BB and ask when/if it is returning.

I just got mine in. Thank you so much for recommending that.

No problem! They were out for a little bit, bam, it returned and I ordered more. It needs to remain fully stocked in my arsenal, as it helps so much with pain, fatigue and mood. I feel so much better when I take my PWR!

MY PWR and yellow md are supposed to be here tomorrow, just in time too. About out of that sweet Premium wild red goodness lol

Really hoping the yellow md turns out fairly fast, haven't had an energetic kratom in a while, and im getting moved up at work so could use the extra boost lol

Kratomtoa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:23 pm White Dayak (Lot 17): another reviewer mentioned before that this is a pretty straightforward white, and that’s exactly the case...

Heads Up! BB now has current re-stock, Batch 2105, of the following from Lot 17: which I believe is "Medy" known for Dayak strains, very consistent high quality! Always check the Batch # and Lot # with BB and I wish more vendors would do this.

• BB Gold, Lot 17
• Green MD
• Yellow MD
• White Dayak
• Green JongKong
• Premium Wild Red!

WhiteAngelica wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:42 pm Although they are out, I swear my life on the perfection that was (that is) Premium Wild Red. I stocked up when I had the chance, and I need to contact BB and ask when/if it is returning.

Someone is generous with the kratom! It means more too, since it's one of your faves. I'll hit the post office and send you some powdered aloha soon.

Will report back here, gonna dose it tonight!!

BallzDeep9 wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 6:16 pm

Kratomtoa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:23 pm White Dayak (Lot 17): another reviewer mentioned before that this is a pretty straightforward white, and that’s exactly the case...

Heads Up! BB now has current re-stock, Batch 2105, of the following from Lot 17: which I believe is "Medy" known for Dayak strains, very consistent high quality! Always check the Batch # and Lot # with BB and I wish more vendors would do this.

• BB Gold, Lot 17
• Green MD
• Yellow MD
• White Dayak
• Green JongKong
• Premium Wild Red!

Perfect timing! I’ve been meaning to increase my Bunny stash and this is perfect excuse! Picked up some PWD and Green MD, can’t wait to try!

Transformato wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:03 pm Word is.. once in a while: BB puts out something legendary. I was fortunate to get some of that in 2018, maybe late '17 when I bought from BB. Green JK, Yellow and Green Bent. (I keep bringing this up for some reason) In the top 7 I've ever had over 5 years. None of the red bents I've tried or anything else has come close to those two. Same for the Grn JongKong despite having some good ones since.
A lot of very good kratom coming from our TX vendors! Going downstairs to get one of those deliveries right now.

Other thing is I have good memories of my visits Corpus Christie, where they are located. So long ago and far away that it hurts.

Yeah green and white bents are the best. Have you tried FF golds and yellows? That's what they are. Probably my favorite place to get them for that reason. Specifically the Kapuas strain of them.

I've seen a lot of talk about their Wild Red AND their PWR. Are they both good or is the Premium really..... premium....?

HeatherLelane wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 5:44 pm I've seen a lot of talk about their Wild Red AND their PWR. Are they both good or is the Premium really..... premium....?

I have found the PWR as something as good as TFH strains. I have a very high tolerance, but PWR hits all the right buttons for me. It is a very green red.

I am wondering if the Wild Red is a deeper red, a red-red, you know? My only idea on how the two could be distinguishable. I'd order to find out, but I have exceeded my monthly kratom budget and can only 'find out' for myself come June.

Others??

WhiteAngelica wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 6:29 pm

HeatherLelane wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 5:44 pm I've seen a lot of talk about their Wild Red AND their PWR. Are they both good or is the Premium really..... premium....?

I have found the PWR as something as good as TFH strains. I have a very high tolerance, but PWR hits all the right buttons for me. It is a very green red.

I am wondering if the Wild Red is a deeper red, a red-red, you know? My only idea on how the two could be distinguishable. I'd order to find out, but I have exceeded my monthly kratom budget and can only 'find out' for myself come June.

Others??

Yeah the picture for Wild Red on the website is a stock one and says it's coming soon so we can't even compare color. The PWR does look pretty dark though.

Just got the PWR today, and it looks exactly like the last bag i got. Also got the yellow md, but its too early to tell if its good or not. its definitely not bunk that's for sure, just not very speedy like i was hoping

I'm unable to even order from b.b. anymore the site won't let me with my address (I'm in a legal state) and they aren't answering emails for weeks I thought they might be closed.anyone else have this issue?

Chris_s29 wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:38 am I'm unable to even order from b.b. anymore the site won't let me with my address (I'm in a legal state) and they aren't answering emails for weeks I thought they might be closed.anyone else have this issue?

According to the site, it seems like they’re dealing with some complications at the moment (maybe hassle from payment companies and such about kratom). I guess people like to make product comments through payment memos and the like, even positive ones, and it can draw negative attention. But I ordered a few days ago and no issues getting though.

HeatherLelane wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 6:48 pm

WhiteAngelica wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 6:29 pm

HeatherLelane wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 5:44 pm I've seen a lot of talk about their Wild Red AND their PWR. Are they both good or is the Premium really..... premium....?

I have found the PWR as something as good as TFH strains. I have a very high tolerance, but PWR hits all the right buttons for me. It is a very green red.

I am wondering if the Wild Red is a deeper red, a red-red, you know? My only idea on how the two could be distinguishable. I'd order to find out, but I have exceeded my monthly kratom budget and can only 'find out' for myself come June.

Others??

Yeah the picture for Wild Red on the website is a stock one and says it's coming soon so we can't even compare color. The PWR does look pretty dark though.

Just got my order, and the PWR appears much greener than the sites photo. I included an order of Green MD as well and the appearances are pretty identical. Arrived on my “planned” break day, but I had to break that sucker open.

Kratomtoa wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 3:17 pm

HeatherLelane wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 6:48 pm

WhiteAngelica wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 6:29 pm

I have found the PWR as something as good as TFH strains. I have a very high tolerance, but PWR hits all the right buttons for me. It is a very green red.

I am wondering if the Wild Red is a deeper red, a red-red, you know? My only idea on how the two could be distinguishable. I'd order to find out, but I have exceeded my monthly kratom budget and can only 'find out' for myself come June.

Others??

Yeah the picture for Wild Red on the website is a stock one and says it's coming soon so we can't even compare color. The PWR does look pretty dark though.

Just got my order, and the PWR appears much greener than the sites photo. I included an order of Green MD as well and the appearances are pretty identical. Arrived on my “planned” break day, but I had to break that sucker open.

Agreed the PWR Batch 2105 looks identical to the Green MD Batch 2105 - I put a couple of spoonful's on a sheet of white paper and they are both vibrant green, sort of nano blend.
I have enjoyed the PWR for it's laid back relaxing effect but have yet to try the Green MD
Anybody tried the two?

RubberToes wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 3:53 pm

Kratomtoa wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 3:17 pm

HeatherLelane wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 6:48 pm

Yeah the picture for Wild Red on the website is a stock one and says it's coming soon so we can't even compare color. The PWR does look pretty dark though.

Just got my order, and the PWR appears much greener than the sites photo. I included an order of Green MD as well and the appearances are pretty identical. Arrived on my “planned” break day, but I had to break that sucker open.

Agreed the PWR Batch 2105 looks identical to the Green MD Batch 2105 - I put a couple of spoonful's on a sheet of white paper and they are both vibrant green, sort of nano blend.
I have enjoyed the PWR for it's laid back relaxing effect but have yet to try the Green MD
Anybody tried the two?

I feel like I got a bit more energy from the Green MD in comparison to the PWR, but that’s about it. Not bad but not great. I’m loving the PWR!

How does one order from Botanical Bunny? Is it members only?

it looks like they are having problems with [mod edit: removed, no payment method discussion], you should be able to just add stuff to a cart. Try emailing, he will respond.

KurtisCards wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:52 am it looks like they are having problems with accepting credit cards, you should be able to just add stuff to a cart. Try emailing, he will respond.

Not only us but every kratom vendor that used T1 for credit card processing.
They were the only credit processor that allowed kratom transactions and I've been told they screwed over an MLM client they had for millions which resulted in the MLM going after their bank accounts.
Apparently, they succeeded and T1 shut down their kratom CC processing. They stopped paying all deposits to their clients but were still accepting payments for a week or more after they stopped paying us and other kratom vendors.
It's still unclear if they are going to payout all the reserves they held or the 10 days' worth of payments they hold.

[mod edit: removed, no payment method discussion for your own safety]

Sorry y'all are dealing with this. What a nightmare.

Just placed an order with BB and even with [mod edit: removed, no payment method discussion] it was very difficult to get a payment through.

Huh. I ordered from them maybe two weeks ago or so and it went just about as smoothly as any card transaction online, were there specific errors that were getting kicked back maybe? I wonder if it's something on the user end or something BB themselves have to troubleshoot.

Not sure, but [mod edit: removed, no payment method discussion]. Not sure if that relates.

Kalico wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 5:06 pm Just placed an order with BB and even with [mod edit: removed, no payment method discussion] it was very difficult to get a payment through.

Shhhhhh, no payment methods can be discussed here, it can jeopardize the method for our vendor family.

I used to love Botanical Bunnies MD. But it seemed like the quality went down. So I moved on and found some amazing small batch vendors. Mewe is the place to be.

Is Botanical Bunny not considered small batch? I have no idea where the line is drawn on that.

I can't comment on the quality of their MD but I ordered from them very recently and was pretty impressed. Those Piasaks are lovely.