Double M Herbals | Kratom Forum

Posted: **Fri Feb 24, 2023 6:13 pm**

I’m on a hunt for very stimulating whites (or greens?) and was hoping to get some suggestions from some of you. I think that many people try to avoid what I’m looking for: something jarring, maybe even anxiety-provoking. I don’t care whether it’s something “nice;” I’m looking for something to help me feel awake. Put another way, I'm looking for

or

rather than

I’ve tried several whites seem popular (ex: Otie’s White Elephant, Benni’s White Lida) and they’re nice, but they’re not what I’m looking for right now.

Thank you for reading, and I’d appreciate any suggestions.

Posted: **Fri Feb 24, 2023 9:01 pm**

Try the offerings from Fused Flora. They are fast across the board!

Posted: **Fri Feb 24, 2023 9:53 pm**

PistolsAtDawn wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 9:01 pm Try the offerings from Fused Flora. They are fast across the board!

I actually have some options from FF that arrived yesterday. I think (hope?) my body needs some time to adjust to their powder. I didn't feel much yesterday but felt a little bit today, and hopefully in the next few days I'll start feeling some energy from it. Thanks for the suggestion -- I have high hopes for their stuff once by body gets with the program!

Posted: **Sat Feb 25, 2023 12:07 pm**

Yeah, take a quarter/half gram less and see what happens. I find ff whites to be strong. Almost unbearable sometimes, I mean not in a totally bad way, I just don’t want to feel like I stepped off a roller coaster.

Posted: **Sat Feb 25, 2023 1:55 pm**

belushi wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 12:07 pm Yeah, take a quarter/half gram less and see what happens. I find ff whites to be strong. Almost unbearable sometimes, I mean not in a totally bad way, I just don’t want to feel like I stepped off a roller coaster.

I'll give that a try, thanks! Your description makes me even more excited about it. I do feel like FF will work well for me once I get adjusted to it and find the right dosage for me.

Posted: **Sat Feb 25, 2023 2:15 pm**

Lucky Herbal's High Octane. Kicks like a mule

, made colors more vivid and I hadn't felt those effects since the honeymoon phase. Good pain relief too. My bag is from an October batch so I can't speak on the current one I but haven't had a dud batch yet. Blends amazingly with reds. It's my favorite white strain right now (i love otie's white elephant too). currently in stock

DTEBotanicals has a great fast green called Imperial Green Dragon. Next drop is coming today at 4pm central

Posted: **Sat Feb 25, 2023 5:04 pm**

Madvillain626 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 2:15 pm Lucky Herbal's High Octane. Kicks like a mule , made colors more vivid and I hadn't felt those effects since the honeymoon phase. Good pain relief too. My bag is from an October batch so I can't speak on the current one I but haven't had a dud batch yet. Blends amazingly with reds. It's my favorite white strain right now (i love otie's white elephant too). currently in stock

DTEBotanicals has a great fast green called Imperial Green Dragon. Next drop is coming today at 4pm central

I will order Lucky's High Octane and hopefully manage to beat the DTE crowds one of these days. Thank you!

Posted: **Sun Feb 26, 2023 5:31 am**

AliJustali wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 5:04 pm
Madvillain626 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 2:15 pm Lucky Herbal's High Octane. Kicks like a mule , made colors more vivid and I hadn't felt those effects since the honeymoon phase. Good pain relief too. My bag is from an October batch so I can't speak on the current one I but haven't had a dud batch yet. Blends amazingly with reds. It's my favorite white strain right now (i love otie's white elephant too). currently in stock

DTEBotanicals has a great fast green called Imperial Green Dragon. Next drop is coming today at 4pm central

I will order Lucky's High Octane and hopefully manage to beat the DTE crowds one of these days. Thank you!

dte drop got moved to Monday between 12-4pm central, fyi

Posted: **Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:27 pm**

belushi wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 12:07 pm Yeah, take a quarter/half gram less and see what happens. I find ff whites to be strong. Almost unbearable sometimes, I mean not in a totally bad way, I just don’t want to feel like I stepped off a roller coaster.

I'd already knocked my dose down a little but tried an even lower dose because of what you said -- it worked! Thank you!!

And thanks for the update, Madvillain!

Oh my goodness, that was a lot of exclamation points for someone who doesn't use them much.

Posted: **Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:43 am**

If anyone sees this, I’m wondering if this sounds reasonable (or if anyone has other ideas for getting it to work better for me):

My regular dose is pretty low: about 2.5g. It seems like I top out at 2.0g with FF’s whites: the energizing effects start decreasing for me. I’m still looking for more energy, though. I’m thinking that I’ll use it mainly as part of a blend with something else that's at least moderately fast – it seems like it should do a good job of adding a fair amount of base energy to whatever I blend it with.

Posted: **Wed Mar 01, 2023 12:08 pm**

Im looking for the same type of stimulating strains also, it's been hard to find, as what most people find stimulating is not very stimulating to me.

Posted: **Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:11 am**

Have you tried doing a fat rail of coke off a strippers ass? I highly recommend you do this at least once in your lifetime

Posted: **Thu Mar 02, 2023 9:33 am**

When I was playing tennis (<g> only been a month or so ago but it seems like years now. Sigh) I was taking whites before each match for mostly exactly this reason (well, and pain relief as well). But for me just about any white did it so I guess I can only list the whites I like the best.

Oties Elephant, which you already said wasn't it, TFH Afterburner, Top-Shelf WMD, Deep Jungle MD, White Daylak and their Bali Blitz, and a lot of Denette's - heck, any white from him.

However, I suspect you aren't really going to find what you want without trying a LOT of things, since it doesn't appear like you react the way many do. So just keep trying - I'd recommend going to the trading post and seeing what little sampler packs and things you might pick up. Almost anything from TFH to me has been top notch in this respect (I won't go into an important match without some of their stuff).

Posted: **Thu Mar 02, 2023 9:51 am**

We've got a great green on the site called Green Bliss our customers love. We have all the reviews posted underneath the product. It's the best green I've ever had in 20 years of drinking tea. I think you'll like it.

Posted: **Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:16 pm**

Dreemr wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 12:08 pm Im looking for the same type of stimulating strains also, it's been hard to find, as what most people find stimulating is not very stimulating to me.

Have you ever had kratom give you anxiety? I haven't, and I'm thinking that whatever kratom hits that causes anxiety overlaps with whatever causes the energy boost. Maybe we have less of that than most people do?

Also: I recently tried javanica for the first time and found the alertness I was looking for. Just FYI in case you want to give it a try.

Posted: **Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:33 pm**

FartBlaster wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:11 am Have you tried doing a fat rail of coke off a strippers ass? I highly recommend you do this at least once in your lifetime

Yeah, but I try to save my fun for the weekends.

Kelleytoons wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 9:33 am When I was playing tennis (<g> only been a month or so ago but it seems like years now. Sigh) I was taking whites before each match for mostly exactly this reason (well, and pain relief as well). But for me just about any white did it so I guess I can only list the whites I like the best.

Oties Elephant, which you already said wasn't it, TFH Afterburner, Top-Shelf WMD, Deep Jungle MD, White Daylak and their Bali Blitz, and a lot of Denette's - heck, any white from him.

However, I suspect you aren't really going to find what you want without trying a LOT of things, since it doesn't appear like you react the way many do. So just keep trying - I'd recommend going to the trading post and seeing what little sampler packs and things you might pick up. Almost anything from TFH to me has been top notch in this respect (I won't go into an important match without some of their stuff).

Thanks for the suggestions! I'll definitely go to the trading post once I meet the requirements. I do seem to react differently than many do to kratom. I see people talk about it giving them anxiety or making them jittery, and I've never experienced that. Not complaining, but I think that might be related to not feeling as much stimulation.

KratomFamily wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 9:51 am We've got a great green on the site called Green Bliss our customers love. We have all the reviews posted underneath the product. It's the best green I've ever had in 20 years of drinking tea. I think you'll like it.

Thanks for the suggestion! I currently have over 20 new (to me) options to try

and have placed a temporary hold on buying even more, but I will put it on my list of ones to order when the hold has been lifted. I wanted to check you guys out at some point anyway!

Posted: **Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:55 pm**

AliJustali wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:33 pm Thanks for the suggestions! I'll definitely go to the trading post once I meet the requirements. I do seem to react differently than many do to kratom. I see people talk about it giving them anxiety or making them jittery, and I've never experienced that. Not complaining, but I think that might be related to not feeling as much stimulation.

I also don't get jittery - never have and never quite understood people saying that (then again, caffeine doesn't do that for me, either - it actually sort of puts me to sleep). But what I *do* get from those whites I mention is lots of energy AND an overall "positive" vibe that's hard to describe (some folks say euphoric but that doesn't quite sound right to me - more of a just "boy, I'm really happy to play right now" without getting out of hand). One thing for sure - try the "turbo boost" method with almost any kratom you currently have (take 2/3 of your dose, wait 30 minutes, and then take 1/3 of almost ANYTHING, preferably something not so great. What happens is hard to describe except it seems to boost up the original, primo dose like a second stage booster. For tennis this really REALLY helps me).

Posted: **Thu Mar 02, 2023 9:04 pm**

Kelleytoons wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:55 pm
I also don't get jittery - never have and never quite understood people saying that (then again, caffeine doesn't do that for me, either - it actually sort of puts me to sleep). But what I *do* get from those whites I mention is lots of energy AND an overall "positive" vibe that's hard to describe (some folks say euphoric but that doesn't quite sound right to me - more of a just "boy, I'm really happy to play right now" without getting out of hand).

Well, there goes my theory, then!

Kelleytoons wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:55 pm
One thing for sure - try the "turbo boost" method with almost any kratom you currently have (take 2/3 of your dose, wait 30 minutes, and then take 1/3 of almost ANYTHING, preferably something not so great. What happens is hard to describe except it seems to boost up the original, primo dose like a second stage booster. For tennis this really REALLY helps me).

You know, I was lurking on this forum for a while before joining and posting, and I saw you mention something like that. For some reason, I didn't think to apply it to this. It's something I will definitely have to try! Thanks!

Posted: **Thu Mar 02, 2023 10:12 pm**

KratomFamily wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 9:51 am We've got a great green on the site called Green Bliss our customers love. We have all the reviews posted underneath the product. It's the best green I've ever had in 20 years of drinking tea. I think you'll like it.

After say I agree with you, green bliss, green zen, and Holiday, are wonderful strains!!! Thank you for providinge xcellent quality products!!

Posted: **Fri Mar 03, 2023 12:34 pm**

KratomFamily wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 9:51 am We've got a great green on the site called Green Bliss our customers love. We have all the reviews posted underneath the product. It's the best green I've ever had in 20 years of drinking tea. I think you'll like it.

So, not that I went and looked at your products or anything... but I went and looked at your products. I have some questions if you happen to see this:

1) Are you referring to your premium Green Bliss or your regular one?

2) Some of your whites / white blends sound amazing. Especially your Firestorm, Git'rDone, White Lightning, and Wild White. Would you say that your Green Bliss is more energizing than those? And of the ones I just listed, which two do you think are the most energizing? (I'll still try the Green Bliss, just wondering what would be my best bet for energy.)

Thanks!

Posted: **Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:03 pm**

AliJustali wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:16 pm
Dreemr wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 12:08 pm Im looking for the same type of stimulating strains also, it's been hard to find, as what most people find stimulating is not very stimulating to me.
Have you ever had kratom give you anxiety? I haven't, and I'm thinking that whatever kratom hits that causes anxiety overlaps with whatever causes the energy boost. Maybe we have less of that than most people do?

Also: I recently tried javanica for the first time and found the alertness I was looking for. Just FYI in case you want to give it a try.

No I never get anxiety from kratom, even the fastest strains make me calm but alert

Posted: **Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:23 pm**

Madvillain626 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 2:15 pm Lucky Herbal's High Octane. Kicks like a mule , made colors more vivid and I hadn't felt those effects since the honeymoon phase. Good pain relief too. My bag is from an October batch so I can't speak on the current one I but haven't had a dud batch yet. Blends amazingly with reds. It's my favorite white strain right now (i love otie's white elephant too). currently in stock

DTEBotanicals has a great fast green called Imperial Green Dragon. Next drop is coming today at 4pm central

I picked up this one and their White MD and have had a chance to try them a few times each now. They both work really well for me -- thanks for the recommendation!

Posted: **Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:07 pm**

AliJustali wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:23 pm
Madvillain626 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 2:15 pm Lucky Herbal's High Octane. Kicks like a mule , made colors more vivid and I hadn't felt those effects since the honeymoon phase. Good pain relief too. My bag is from an October batch so I can't speak on the current one I but haven't had a dud batch yet. Blends amazingly with reds. It's my favorite white strain right now (i love otie's white elephant too). currently in stock

DTEBotanicals has a great fast green called Imperial Green Dragon. Next drop is coming today at 4pm central
I picked up this one and their White MD and have had a chance to try them a few times each now. They both work really well for me -- thanks for the recommendation!

No problemo! DTE just did a restock an hour ago and they have a new white strain - Ancient White Sunda. Haven't tried it yet but it's supposed to be mid-upper.

Posted: **Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:47 pm**

Madvillain626 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:07 pm
AliJustali wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:23 pm
Madvillain626 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 2:15 pm Lucky Herbal's High Octane. Kicks like a mule , made colors more vivid and I hadn't felt those effects since the honeymoon phase. Good pain relief too. My bag is from an October batch so I can't speak on the current one I but haven't had a dud batch yet. Blends amazingly with reds. It's my favorite white strain right now (i love otie's white elephant too). currently in stock

DTEBotanicals has a great fast green called Imperial Green Dragon. Next drop is coming today at 4pm central
I picked up this one and their White MD and have had a chance to try them a few times each now. They both work really well for me -- thanks for the recommendation!
No problemo! DTE just did a restock an hour ago and they have a new white strain - Ancient White Sunda. Haven't tried it yet but it's supposed to be mid-upper.

I swooped in and grabbed that one right at 6:00 central. I also grabbed the yellow indo, but more for "feel good" qualities than stimulating ones. I'm looking forward to them both!

Posted: **Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:16 pm**

Otie's House Blend knows how to ring my bell.

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2023 1:21 pm**

WhiteAngelica wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:16 pm Otie's House Blend knows how to ring my bell.

Thanks, I've heard people say they like it. I might pick some up next time I order from them. I got their Super Green a week or two ago and was pleasantly surprised with the energy it gave me.
I've also said that I'm on a break from buying more kratom, but I keep buying more kratom. Hmm.

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2023 2:41 am**

i tried tkf Green Bliss and found it a real winner and will definetly be getting this again.

Posted: **Sat Mar 25, 2023 12:16 am**

Dion wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 2:41 am i tried tkf Green Bliss and found it a real winner and will definetly be getting this again.

Thanks for your input - it's much appreciated! I'm currently in the process of trying several from TKF, and Green Bliss is one of them. I know I like their Firestorm, but I'm still trying to get a better read on the others.

Posted: **Sun Apr 23, 2023 10:46 pm**

WHich strain so far has been the most energizing/stimulating for you?

Posted: **Sun Apr 21, 2024 12:23 pm**

AliJustali wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:27 pm
belushi wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 12:07 pm Yeah, take a quarter/half gram less and see what happens. I find ff whites to be strong. Almost unbearable sometimes, I mean not in a totally bad way, I just don’t want to feel like I stepped off a roller coaster.
I'd already knocked my dose down a little but tried an even lower dose because of what you said -- it worked! Thank you!!

And thanks for the update, Madvillain!

Oh my goodness, that was a lot of exclamation points for someone who doesn't use them much.

Glad that worked for you. I think a lot of folks go up too much instead of down a bit, and then boom, they try once and it's like wow what have I been missing.

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