Anxiety and Panic (Kratom)

[KratomAdvocateMO]

I've taken a particular batch of kratom every night for about a year now. Never had any issues. As of recent I've had some financial stress and other small issues that have lead me to have so pretty rough anxiety. It only happens at night about an hour before bed. Is it possible that a batch that has worked for you for a long time could possibly switch and cause you to get anxious from it? It got to the point where I felt faint lastnight and had to go to the hospital. I like the particular batch but I feel like it's turned on me and causing my anxiety to worsen. Is that possible

[mivanqua]

Happens some for sure. It's why I don't take greens anymore. I REALLY miss them too. It's hard to find a nice energetic Red, but they ARE out there. That's my quarry these days.

[Eu4oric906]

Perhaps your new life stressors are enhanced by leaf that was fine prior/without. Just a thought. At a minimum the real stressors likely play a part in anxiety. Maybe try different types while working through the root issues.

[BallzDeep9]

Boy that's a tough one... Mitragynine is - pretty sure it's considered Anxiolytic - fancy word meaning: ANTI anxiety

It's been studied SOME - by science, however those large double-blind research studies, cost $ and maybe won't happen until Kratom gets FDA approval... if ever ? There's been articles written - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7309668/

So I guess I'm thinking... IS there "anything" else you're doing or consuming ? You drink coffee ? Smoke weed - that will definitely cause anxiety. Proven Fact, on Cannabis... otherwise it gets hard to pin-down... we all eat & drink various foods, and we all get STRESS in our lives, from various sources... seems like, this time of year especially ? I live up North and they predict snow this weekend. Not the "White Christmas" type... but the freezing cold miserable depressing type snow...

Two more. One, there's a thing known as "Opioid Rage" where, you get feeling of angry stress, when your medication wears off ? Search Google or Reddit for details.... Two, how's your Tolerance ? oh yeah. that T word... Are you maintaining some HEADROOM in your daily Kratom consumption... meaning, low-enough servings where you "could" really enjoy a Double Shot ? In that case... try that. Treat yourself to a Mit-45 ADD to your regular serving. (I get like 3-4 servings from 1 of those Mit-45 shots!) ... And... Enjoy that along with, some Anti Stress Tea & honey... In the grocery store... Tea section. A caffeine free "Relaxing" blend... good luck

[Babel-17]

Happens some for sure. It's why I don't take greens anymore. I REALLY miss them too. It's hard to find a nice energetic Red, but they ARE out there. That's my quarry these days.

The 250 grams of TFH Wild Crafted Rocket Red: A35 I ordered back in September 2020 has been very good to me. IIIRC it was even recommended in a post from TFH. Lol, glad I heeded that!

[mivanqua]

Happens some for sure. It's why I don't take greens anymore. I REALLY miss them too. It's hard to find a nice energetic Red, but they ARE out there. That's my quarry these days.

The 250 grams of TFH Wild Crafted Rocket Red: A35 I ordered back in September 2020 has been very good to me. IIIRC it was even recommended in a post from TFH. Lol, glad I heeded that!

I've got some of that, I haven't bonded with it yet, but it certainly fits the "daytime red" bill.

[Vipercuda69]

Happens some for sure. It's why I don't take greens anymore. I REALLY miss them too. It's hard to find a nice energetic Red, but they ARE out there. That's my quarry these days.

The 250 grams of TFH Wild Crafted Rocket Red: A35 I ordered back in September 2020 has been very good to me. IIIRC it was even recommended in a post from TFH. Lol, glad I heeded that!

Love the Rocket Red! Great daytime Red for me.

[KratomAdvocateMO]

Boy that's a tough one... Mitragynine is - pretty sure it's considered Anxiolytic - fancy word meaning: ANTI anxiety

It's been studied SOME - by science, however those large double-blind research studies, cost $ and maybe won't happen until Kratom gets FDA approval... if ever ? There's been articles written - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7309668/

So I guess I'm thinking... IS there "anything" else you're doing or consuming ? You drink coffee ? Smoke weed - that will definitely cause anxiety. Proven Fact, on Cannabis... otherwise it gets hard to pin-down... we all eat & drink various foods, and we all get STRESS in our lives, from various sources... seems like, this time of year especially ? I live up North and they predict snow this weekend. Not the "White Christmas" type... but the freezing cold miserable depressing type snow...

Two more. One, there's a thing known as "Opioid Rage" where, you get feeling of angry stress, when your medication wears off ? Search Google or Reddit for details.... Two, how's your Tolerance ? oh yeah. that T word... Are you maintaining some HEADROOM in your daily Kratom consumption... meaning, low-enough servings where you "could" really enjoy a Double Shot ? In that case... try that. Treat yourself to a Mit-45 ADD to your regular serving. (I get like 3-4 servings from 1 of those Mit-45 shots!) ... And... Enjoy that along with, some Anti Stress Tea & honey... In the grocery store... Tea section. A caffeine free "Relaxing" blend... good luck

The only things I take outside of kratom is vitamin d3, magnesium glycinate, melatonin, and nicotine. I have completely eliminated caffeine and alcohol about 4 years ago..

[Hulu2021]

hey ,
so i perceive what’s happening is that your body is so used to that strain, the alkaloids and what not, that your tolerance to that strain is very high now, and so it is as if you’re taking a minuscule amount of krätom which is supposed to make a hyper effect.
try doubling your dose or taking something else.

you can also take a break from that strain for a while
but it might not ever give you what it once did.

[mivanqua]

hey ,
so i perceive what’s happening is that your body is so used to that strain, the alkaloids and what not, that your tolerance to that strain is very high now, and so it is as if you’re taking a minuscule amount of krätom which is supposed to make a hyper effect.
try doubling your dose or taking something else.

you can also take a break from that strain for a while
but it might not ever give you what it once did.

What's up, Hulu! I.was just wondering about you earlier, it's great to see you. Every time I take that Mitragenie RB1 you come to mind and that was 2nd dose today.

[Hulu2021]

oh i know that RB1 is classic and legendary.
i remember when i first tried it , i became a Genie fan instantaneously.
he has a third one now, haven’t tried it or the 2nd one.
haha hope you’re doing well

[anxietyINC]

I've taken a particular batch of kratom every night for about a year now. Never had any issues. As of recent I've had some financial stress and other small issues that have lead me to have so pretty rough anxiety. It only happens at night about an hour before bed. Is it possible that a batch that has worked for you for a long time could possibly switch and cause you to get anxious from it? It got to the point where I felt faint lastnight and had to go to the hospital. I like the particular batch but I feel like it's turned on me and causing my anxiety to worsen. Is that possible

I’ve had the same thing happen to me, ( I don’t consume alcohol or nicotine either ) it’s like it was working great, melting my anxiety and panic attacks away, and then one day it just turned on me, this has happened with multiple reds, fermented or not , and slow greens, I’m super sensitive to energetic types ( I used to not be) I’ve been to the hospital , and even an ambulance ride embarrassing enough over anxiety, the only thing that fixed it , was slowly tapering off Kratom and resetting, months later when I started Kratom again, and went back to all the types of powder that turned on me, well they all worked fantastic again, and took away all anxiety. The only thing I could think of , is that I just had too much Kratom built up in my system and I needed a break, sorry you went thought that!, but i find relief , that someone else has these issues as well! ( all the people I know that take Kratom don’t have any of these issues with Kratom except me )

[boureka]

I've had good strains turn on me occasionally. You're not alone!

[BundyMcDiggyDoodles]

Certain strains I will hit a level of dose where it gives me anxiety or anger issues. Typically faster strains. Then there have been some strains that do that to me initially and when I come back to them 6 months down the road don't do that anymore. Alot of mine I attribute to tolerance and dose level. There is obviously a ton of variables in regards to how a dose hits as well. Life stressors could be effecting it, or change in dietary things, timing of dosage.