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Anybody heard of this site/vendor? Frostycommerce dot com

Curious about their product, something about the site draws me in. lol

Edit: Upon further inspection it seems kind of corny. Also having a hard time finding a way to contact them.

This is interesting...They just registered the domain on 11/05/18, out of Arkansas, where kratom is banned.

Some of the many strains they have listed have strange names, i.e. yellow gold, red gold, red chocolate. And there's some glaring spelling errors.

Also, no email or contact info listed.

Doesn't look good...

I did end up finding contact info...
Jason Frost
[email protected]
417-598-7991

417 is a Missouri area code, so maybe it's not total bullshit. If anyone decides to test the waters, let us know

Interesting. I also noticed the description for alot of the strains includes the word euphoria or "known for its euphoric qualities", which makes me curious if they're just sugarcoating it. I already went broke grabbing a kilo from Kats and Sosa so for now I'm good, but if somebody ends up trying them let us know.

How did you end up finding the info to contact?

Removed. Please don't discuss payment methods, thanks! hh

How did you hear about this vendor? I can't find anything about them online. Seems they had a Facebook group that was deleted or something.

I've never heard about them, only somehow stumbled on their site while I do my nightly internet surfing of products and vendors.
Emailed him a few times back and forth, he mentioned he had 8-9 different websites shut down by facebook apparently. I'm not sure about it honestly, I'd like to try the product just out of curiosity but I've read literally no info about them and have not heard of them in the year I've been using kratom. He also mentioned he's been doing this for 3 1/2 years. Idk, where's Ballz at to decipher this confusion lol

beathappening wrote:Removed. Please don't discuss payment methods, thanks! hh

How did you hear about this vendor? I can't find anything about them online. Seems they had a Facebook group that was deleted or something.

Had to edit your post to remove payment methods, beathappening.

Hey the guy who owns that place hit me up on reddit over the summer when I was brand new to kratom and still in final stages of methadone clinic ... He was advertising his product..herbal rva was then and is still only place ive ever ordered from but he sent me a free sample like 20g of 3 different kinds. I remember they came in black bags. Quality was not great but here's the thing.. Since I was still in the clinic i was getting random urine screens. They didn't test for kratom but I came up positive for fentanyl twice in a row while taking his stuff!! Now they did lab it and both times the lab said there was none detected and it was a false positive... But i had many tests while i was there and taking Herbal RVA kratom and that never happened so it was 100% something in the Frosty Gorilla kratom.

Oops, sorry.

There's something really fishy here. So I placed a mock order, with no intention of paying, just to see how it would work. The next day I get an email with a tracking number. I email him and say, don't send anything, I haven't paid yet. he says "it's ok, I trust you". Ok? This is literally the first time i spoke with him. I don't really know what's going on, but I check the tracking number later and it says it's already been delivered- to the same zip code that it was dropped off at. Here's the tracking number
9500115600128344250196
Very, very strange. Does anybody have any idea what this could be about?

Very, very strange. Does anybody have any idea what this could be about?

Well, the default behavior for unknown NEW vendors in the kratom "business" is: BS, fakery, and taking advantage... Sounds like He's pulling a fast one, prob sent you a package of cheap kratom, then demand payment lol ASSUME any unknown vendor IS a scammer.

Free Enterprise! right? Fine. You can play that GAME - he's just sent you a Free Sample. Great! You are NOT obligated to pay!

I see, website is setup so you must Checkout just to see a Final Price. Bullshit - he's desperate for money. IF he emails you demanding money, just Reply you figured it was a Sample. Does he want it back? OK - He can wire you Certified Funds for Return Shipping - DO NOT allow him to "pressure" you into sending him money!

Remember, No More New Vendors! - Have you tried: EE Botanicals, Enhanciosa, Gothic, Inland, Kraydo Organics, Liza's Botanicals, Okie Naturals, Precious Mitre, Smiley Time, Stan David, Tea Time, Texas Herbs... ?? ALL of those are good, proven, quality, vendors who are well established. Support them! Why do we need, another NEW vendor website every month?

That's the thing...I don't think he's mailing me anything. The tracking number I got was sent and delivered to a PO box in the same zip code that it was dropped off at, in the same day, in his home state of Missouri. It's like he mailed it to himself. I'm not sure how any of this benefits him. Don't worry, I won't be pressured into anything. I think we should make some sort of disclaimer for this vendor, as this behavior is really suspect and smacks of blatant fuckery. I hope no one's dumb enough to send him money.

He is u/gorillabotanicals on reddit, by the way. None of his posts have anything to do with kratom. I'm also fairly certain Jason Frost is a made up name.

I just found the messages on Reddit, it's from Aug 13 he was under Kratom League then.. He congratulated me for detoxing from methadone and told me about his shop... He said "don't pay attention to the prices I give codes to ppl I talk to" and when I said I was nervous about buying from someone who has no reviews his reply was the image I attached.. I thought it was really cool I was brand new to kratom, he told me to pick what I wanted and he would send them to me...and he did

Ps he never hassled me after that to order anything..he did ask me how it was and I didn't reply for a few days bc the fentanyl test I mentioned.. I was still waiting for the lab results. The last message he sent me was that he doesn't like getting ignored after sending free samples. ..but yea, it said his kratomleague.com was under construction and he was using frostygorilla.com and he sells kratom and cbd vape

I came up positive for fentanyl twice in a row while taking his stuff!!

Oh wOw... So the "Frosty" dude is Kratom League? Haha... yeah he's been banned from Reddit and elsewhere, shady as hell, changing his name, spamming, IS anybody really surprised IF he's spiking his powder with fent? I would not be surprised.

LIKE I said. And I find myself saying it over & over now... No More New Vendors!

He actually did send me a bag. It's supposedly 100g of "yellow gold", looks and smells fine, came in an unmarked white resealable bag. I had already sent him an email stating that I'm not going to send him money, and he sent it anyway. So I have to eat my words, he actually does have kratom; it's not a complete scam as I thought before. But now I'm a little concerned that it's adulterated with something after reading this thread. I'm going try a small amount tomorrow and I'll report back. Wish me luck.

Interesting

That is sooo sketchy that you've been popping up for fent. Got me worried because I have a drug test coming up for work in 3 weeks, sure hope nobody I'm ordering from is spiking their shit!

Any word on it beathapening? Are you still alive?

Yeah haha. I took a little this morning and was fine. I didn't take enough to have an effect. I'm going to try a regular dose in the next day or two.

He was a trusted vendor in a group I'm in. Someone kept reporting his posts constantly like they had it in for him. I was friends with him in his personal account and a member of his vendor account, so I had read his posts. There was nothing wrong with his posts, but Facebook deleted both accounts. He was kind and helpful to people. He even sent some people free products when they were in need. May be a jealous vendor causing him problems.

He was a trusted vendor in a group I'm in.

Hmmm... what kind of Group is that? Just noticed a few days ago, he's ALSO featured in a new Scam Report on the Facebook Scammers Group. Big surprise.

But... Your 1st post HERE so obviously, you're his mother / or just another shill.

I was thinking shill also, who knows. Either way he doesn't have my business lol. Like you say Ballz, there's plenty others ahead of him to try. For me, I'm working on trying K-OG!

beathappening wrote:Yeah haha. I took a little this morning and was fine. I didn't take enough to have an effect. I'm going to try a regular dose in the next day or two.

Did you ever try a regular dose? Curious about how it was

Yeah i have tried it a few times. It's average, nothing special. If it is doped with fent, it's not doing it any favors