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I’ve been doing a 50/50 split of the current PMD and Buntok the last few weeks and it works really well. The Buntok is a little faster and I get a nice slow warm feeling from the PMD, good combo
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Clever Coyote wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 9:54 am Hmmm......I've only ever ordered from MitraMan. Based on this decided to try RVA (same strains I get from MM) Premium MD, Red Bali & white borneo). Will absolutely leave a review of my findings. Used fast ship so it should be Tuesday.
Sorry I never came back to reply. I'm not online much. In fact I can't really remember much about any of the strains other than they were "just ok". I went back to mitraman after this order and the last few orders with him were 'just ok' too. That's why I'm here scouting for a new vendor right now. I MIGHT have found one. Fingers crossed all the strains are as good as the one I'm trying now.
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I can vouch for Buntok, stuffs great.
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KurtisCards wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 3:55 pm I can vouch for Buntok, stuffs great.
I second the Buntok. This one stays close in my rotation
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Anyone try the recent PMD1 or PMD2? The PMD2 shows higher Mit%.
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Happy to be here on this forum. Just ordered from RVA, and their Red Maegna Da is one of the best I've tried. In the midst of trying new small business vendors, and I'm really enjoying having this forum to read reviews before spending the money on a new vendor.
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KenMasters wrote: Sun Dec 25, 2022 2:23 am Anyone try the recent PMD1 or PMD2? The PMD2 shows higher Mit%.
The PMD2 is stronger/faster but I have really enjoyed PMD1 as well.. I treat it like a red and just add an extra gram. It’s on the slower more relaxing side. Works really well blended with something faster too, where 2 is a little better on its own, for me at least
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The green buntok does not work for me, although it is beautifuly colored, fresh as morning dew, and fluffy as pancakes. I hope it works for you.

anti-fomo! don't get swept away, lol! someone throw me an inflatable donut!
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IndelibleDotInk wrote: Mon Dec 26, 2022 5:19 pm The green buntok does not work for me, although it is beautifuly colored, fresh as morning dew, and fluffy as pancakes. I hope it works for you.

anti-fomo! don't get swept away, lol! someone throw me an inflatable donut!

Same here. I literally got nothing from it. But it’s been shelved for a while now, so maybe I should give it another go.

I also have an unopened bag of the RMD that may be calling my name now….
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IjustFeltLikeRunnin’ wrote: Mon Dec 26, 2022 8:35 pm
IndelibleDotInk wrote: Mon Dec 26, 2022 5:19 pm The green buntok does not work for me, although it is beautifuly colored, fresh as morning dew, and fluffy as pancakes. I hope it works for you.

anti-fomo! don't get swept away, lol! someone throw me an inflatable donut!

Same here. I literally got nothing from it. But it’s been shelved for a while now, so maybe I should give it another go.

I also have an unopened bag of the RMD that may be calling my name now….
I put the Green Buntok on the shelf a couple months ago and the last couple doses were even better than I remembered. Very relaxed, clean and clear headed at my normal 2.75 gram dose. Herbal RVA stuff is so reliable to me. Really good, honest kratom with none of the frazzle or over the top effects of some MIT bombs I could name. I've got extracts for that if I want it.
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IndelibleDotInk wrote: Mon Dec 26, 2022 5:19 pm The green buntok does not work for me, although it is beautifuly colored, fresh as morning dew, and fluffy as pancakes. I hope it works for you.

anti-fomo! don't get swept away, lol! someone throw me an inflatable donut!
Yea. There was probably the first one he had a few ys ago that was really something special. Not knock over powerful but fast-ish and really well rounded with a happy, motivated vibe that's unique. I haven't hadn't anything like it before or since.
I caved and tried it again this batch. First is never one to rely on but it was good. Later, not bad but not impressive and then it wanted to hide.
I was disappointed by 3rd or 4th run but I managed to recover value since - Determined that it's definitely a blender for me so that's an idea.

Try it blend style and see what you think. I've been liking it this way with a bit slower stuff to round it out. A lot of higher spec stuff last cpl or 3 ys from anywhere has needed this treatment it seems.
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Tried a few more times with most recent time being now, lol.

Took a little TFH earlier, let several hours pass, missed hit.

Took some buntok, and it's a hit, slow, buzzy, and mellow.

Another lesson for trying a batch several times.

Thumbs up!
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got me some PMD, PMD2, Wild Green, Super Green #2. Ran each one once, looks very promising!
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If your ever not happy and feel its below par give us a email let us know. Bad feedback is as equal as good feedback. We also will work something out with you. Your feedback good or bad is valuable to us.
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For anybody who liked the last batch of Green Vietnam, the new one that came in this week is even better. It tests at 1.79% MIT. Also the new PMD2 which dropped this week is formidable. You will have to go look up the labs for that one yourself! :)
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Jfish030 wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 3:31 pm If your ever not happy and feel its below par give us a email let us know. Bad feedback is as equal as good feedback. We also will work something out with you. Your feedback good or bad is valuable to us.
I've still yet to try your kratom, wouldn't know where to begin lol I guess by looking up reviews would be a good starting point
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xymoriintus wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 2:41 pm
Jfish030 wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 3:31 pm If your ever not happy and feel its below par give us a email let us know. Bad feedback is as equal as good feedback. We also will work something out with you. Your feedback good or bad is valuable to us.
I've still yet to try your kratom, wouldn't know where to begin lol I guess by looking up reviews would be a good starting point


I would start with a green strain. Green vietnam, PMD2, Super green, Green bigbang. Four way split kilo is what i would recommend, the other option is 100gram bags of a few to get a sampler.
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Anyone try the new PMD2? Labs look really impressive
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Jfish030 wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:45 pm
xymoriintus wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 2:41 pm
Jfish030 wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 3:31 pm If your ever not happy and feel its below par give us a email let us know. Bad feedback is as equal as good feedback. We also will work something out with you. Your feedback good or bad is valuable to us.
I've still yet to try your kratom, wouldn't know where to begin lol I guess by looking up reviews would be a good starting point


I would start with a green strain. Green vietnam, PMD2, Super green, Green bigbang. Four way split kilo is what i would recommend, the other option is 100gram bags of a few to get a sampler.
So I take it green strains are what you guys are known for? Do you have any greens that burn similar to a red? I have way too many fast greens ATM I need to find a balance ⚖️
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LMK if there's a red I should know about!
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xymoriintus wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 8:33 pm
Jfish030 wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:45 pm
xymoriintus wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 2:41 pm

I've still yet to try your kratom, wouldn't know where to begin lol I guess by looking up reviews would be a good starting point


I would start with a green strain. Green vietnam, PMD2, Super green, Green bigbang. Four way split kilo is what i would recommend, the other option is 100gram bags of a few to get a sampler.
So I take it green strains are what you guys are known for? Do you have any greens that burn similar to a red? I have way too many fast greens ATM I need to find a balance ⚖️
Of all Herbal RVA's Green strains I have tried, the regular PMD burns most like a Red. It is not "slow' in the sense of being sedating, but just very mellow and clean. It's one Green strain I used when I would normally want a good, unfermented Red.
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We are known for greens. I personally dont meet too many people aside from special cases where anyone long term using kratom prefers reds. Your body gets the need for Mit (the most active alkaloid) after long term use. Its like drinking soda long term, caffeine. Reds dont have high mit, they actually normally have low everything. The outdoor drying process (sun/UV light) and or fermentation destroys alot of mit and some of the other alkaloids a bit..

People selling green colored powder calling it red when it tests as high as their greens. They are just selling greens with red as the name. This is because no one separates leaf by vein color anymore. Its by the drying process that makes reds now. The reds are good for relaxing and relief. This is due to the mit level being lower while the other akaloids maintain some content and thus produce more relaxing relief effects. The second and third most active akaloids in kratom are muscle relaxing alkaloids. Green powder has more alkaloids in total but the mit effects over power them all so you mainly end up with energy. This above is with moderate to minimal usage amounts, most people taking 5-6grams or less at a time. More powder things get a little different because some alkaloids take priority over one another on receptors.
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thnx for info!!
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Sorry but maybe I'm going to the wrong place??
herbal-rva.com I see no link for kratom at all??
Any help would be appreciated!
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Burnyjax wrote: Mon Feb 06, 2023 8:24 am Sorry but maybe I'm going to the wrong place??
herbal-rva.com I see no link for kratom at all??
Any help would be appreciated!
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Hey guys. Just wanted to say i ordered for the first time from RVA a couple of days ago, and am happy w the 3 green strains i got. Green Vietnam, gr Big Bang, and gr Hulu are all winners. Touched base w J to ask about sone reds he likes right now.. Red Kutai and red Zarena came up. Product was very fresh. Will def be back!
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brian b wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:01 am Hey guys. Just wanted to say i ordered for the first time from RVA a couple of days ago, and am happy w the 3 green strains i got. Green Vietnam, gr Big Bang, and gr Hulu are all winners. Touched base w J to ask about sone reds he likes right now.. Red Kutai and red Zarena came up. Product was very fresh. Will def be back!
We seem to have similar Herbal RVA tastes so I would highly recommend the Red Hulu. Very nice mellow Red without being sedating. Red Kutai is very good but more energetic than the Hulu.
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Anyone know if there's an active discount code? It's been awhile since my last order but I remember there used to be a 5% one or something. I recently dug up some 2017 PMD and 2018 SG#2 and both of them are as amazing maybe more than I remember so now I'm getting nostalgic and feeling the need to order some RVA again. Both of those hit with a special unique euphoria that's seriously some of the best I've ever had. I have fond memories of burning the SG#2, G Aceh and Bigbang and playing Zelda BOTW around the time it came out and being in just a state of pure bliss lol. If anyone has any 2017 or 2018 RVA greens they want to get rid of let me know haha
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Jfish030 wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2023 3:34 pm We are known for greens. I personally dont meet too many people aside from special cases where anyone long term using kratom prefers reds. Your body gets the need for Mit (the most active alkaloid) after long term use. Its like drinking soda long term, caffeine. Reds dont have high mit, they actually normally have low everything. The outdoor drying process (sun/UV light) and or fermentation destroys alot of mit and some of the other alkaloids a bit..

People selling green colored powder calling it red when it tests as high as their greens. They are just selling greens with red as the name. This is because no one separates leaf by vein color anymore. Its by the drying process that makes reds now. The reds are good for relaxing and relief. This is due to the mit level being lower while the other akaloids maintain some content and thus produce more relaxing relief effects. The second and third most active akaloids in kratom are muscle relaxing alkaloids. Green powder has more alkaloids in total but the mit effects over power them all so you mainly end up with energy. This above is with moderate to minimal usage amounts, most people taking 5-6grams or less at a time. More powder things get a little different because some alkaloids take priority over one another on receptors.
Thanks for the info!

In your experience, is that true - not many long term users prefer reds - even for those who mainly use kratom for relief (or are the special cases you mentioned those needing help with pain)? Just curious. I know you're a well respected/regarded established vendor and I've ordered from you a bunch of times. My mother and I prefer reds, especially daytime reds, as we seek pain relief above anything else, and I look for energy second (any mood boost or other effects are a bonus). She also uses kratom for sleep too. Both have been daily users since 2016 (1st Kratom I ever bought was from Kwik-Kratom :lol: )
***Oddly enough, my mother and I both get some of the best results from the brick-red colored reds or darker/"non-green" reds (oxidized and sun-dried reds or partial sun-dried, and Bents). For reference, Harry from Kratom-OG has had some of our favorite reds ever, though I haven't ordered from them since early 2021 (hope Harry is okay by the way, and still in the business, I know there's a note on their website saying they had to take a break***

Over the past few years, I changed the type of kratom I use, and now I use a lot more greens, whereas for the first 2-3 years I didn't get good results from greens. I also do blends for my doses probably more than anything as well (I have found green/gold and red/yellow blends work extremely well for me). But my mother doesn't use greens often, she tries and sometimes will notice a difference in energy, but she rarely finds the relief she needs in any colors except for reds.

Didn't mean to make this post so long, so anyways I'll end it saying I appreciate your (and any vendors) insights whenever you make posts/comments. I'll probably put in a new order with you in the next week or so (my father has great results with your extract caps and I need to get more of those). Any darker colored reds/daytime reds on the current menu? Is the Royal Bent still a heavy slow spec I could get my mother for nights?
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I'll be interested to see what his response is to you, but I also think that even if the poster hadn't, in his experience, met many folks who have used kratom long term who prefer reds is pretty meaningless.

It's anecdotal and leaving aside the fact that just about ALL the information we have on kratom is such it still doesn't amount to much. Looking at this forum you can easily see MANY long term users preferring reds. But the main problem with this kind of judgement, for or against, is that we don't really even have a good definition of "reds" in the first place. One vendor may call something a red that another vendor will sell as a green. I know for a fact there is a respected vendor (perhaps THE most respected vendor) who has started off calling something a green and then turned around and sold it as a red.

I also think that mit % is HIGHLY overrated - I've taken a lot of stuff that was verified as having high mit and it was "meh", and stuff that almost certainly wasn't and was great. There is still a TON of things we do not understand about this leaf, not the least of which is what the effects are for individuals. We ALL know that one batch does not affect each person in the same way - it's not only not rare but EXTREMELY common that one batch that is raved about will find at least SOME folks who hate it, and vice versa. If it were ALL mit % this wouldn't be the case - it COULDN'T be the case.

So in any case I think you just need to see for yourself what works and what doesn't. Over a year ago reds have NO effect on me... until I slowed my roll and started both taking better batches and far less amounts. Now they are clearly MY favorite but - who cares? That's just me. And perhaps, too, in a few years they won't be my favorite again but I kind of doubt it - I doubt that ANY "color" will end up being something I prefer one way or the other. Particular batches - that's a whole other story.
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Recents from Herbal RVA include red kutai, red zarena, green buntok, and red hulu. Not a dud in the bunch, all very nice with a green style burn in those reds. At least for me anyway, which is a plus being in a kitchen all day. I do like mostly greens, but the occasional unique red is always welcome. Impressive product so far, two orders straight 😁
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Any green recommendations from the last month? Went though a bunch of Buntok and it was great. Working on PMD2 and it's not nearly as potent. Let me rephrase that. I believe the Mit% is decent but it's not effective for me.
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I like reds and depend on them so I don't off myself. Dude, you sound like you have little respect for them and I don't trust the red I order is not a green. I will tell you with certainty that greens and whites do not touch this pain and since I'm in a blinding amount of it, I'd rather invest in a vendor that doesn't make reds sound like whale shit on the bottom of the ocean.
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KenMasters wrote: Sat Feb 25, 2023 12:09 pm Any green recommendations from the last month? Went though a bunch of Buntok and it was great. Working on PMD2 and it's not nearly as potent. Let me rephrase that. I believe the Mit% is decent but it's not effective for me.
I had high hopes for the new batch of PMD2 but was also disappointed. It's just not my style. I find it agitating. I like relaxing, mood boosting Greens. On the other hand, I think the new batch of Green Vietnam is even better than the July batch, which is saying something. My favorites from among Herbal RVA's current offerings are:

Green Vietnam
Red Hulu
PMD
Super Green 2
White Vietnam
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OriginalLHB wrote: Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:36 pm
KenMasters wrote: Sat Feb 25, 2023 12:09 pm Any green recommendations from the last month? Went though a bunch of Buntok and it was great. Working on PMD2 and it's not nearly as potent. Let me rephrase that. I believe the Mit% is decent but it's not effective for me.
I had high hopes for the new batch of PMD2 but was also disappointed. It's just not my style. I find it agitating. I like relaxing, mood boosting Greens. On the other hand, I think the new batch of Green Vietnam is even better than the July batch, which is saying something. My favorites from among Herbal RVA's current offerings are:

Green Vietnam
Red Hulu
PMD
Super Green 2
White Vietnam
Thanks. I'll probably get at least 1 bag of Vietnam. Is the regular PMD working well for you?
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Big Bang = 10/10
Green Vietnam = 8/10

Jfish recommended the Big Bang and it's exceptional. Vietnam is solid but I'd put the Big Bang above it.
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KenMasters wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 1:07 am Big Bang = 10/10
Green Vietnam = 8/10

Jfish recommended the Big Bang and it's exceptional. Vietnam is solid but I'd put the Big Bang above it.
Green or White Big Bang?
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SeventhHeaven wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 9:05 pm
Green or White Big Bang?
Sorry for the late reply. It was the Green.
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KenMasters wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2023 4:43 am
SeventhHeaven wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 9:05 pm
Green or White Big Bang?
Sorry for the late reply. It was the Green.
Thanks, 'tis ordered :D
Clever Coyote
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Re: Herbal RVA killing it right now guys. Read before you assume im shilling.

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Badgame85 wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 9:22 pm
Kelleytoons wrote: Mon Jun 13, 2022 7:51 am
Clever Coyote wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 9:54 am Hmmm......I've only ever ordered from MitraMan. Based on this decided to try RVA (same strains I get from MM) Premium MD, Red Bali & white borneo). Will absolutely leave a review of my findings. Used fast ship so it should be Tuesday.
But - just to reiterate things you should know - there are NOT the same strains. Just because something is named MD, or Red Bali or White Borneo from one vendor and another vendor uses the same names - completely different strains. To be even clearer - you order White Borneo from one vendor in March, and then re-order from them again in October and (if they are a good seller) it almost surely is not the same strain. Different harvest, different plants, different makeup.
This should be a public service announcement posted at the top of the forums. Honestly I'm kind of surprised how many people believe these strains are the same from vendor to vendor, that the strains are harvested from the name they are called, and that if you get a good batch from your favorite vendor... when you come back 3 months later for more...its most definitely not the same.
THANKS GUYS !
I've actually been really educated since making that post (and tried another handful of vendors, too). I've had pretty bad luck for awhile. That RVA buy was awful, too.
I do now realize that every batch is different (and especially different due to rainy seasons, etc). I also know now that strain "names" are just that. Names.
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