I’ve tried several whites seem popular (ex: Otie’s White Elephant, Benni’s White Lida) and they’re nice, but they’re not what I’m looking for right now.
Thank you for reading, and I’d appreciate any suggestions.

I actually have some options from FF that arrived yesterday. I think (hope?) my body needs some time to adjust to their powder. I didn't feel much yesterday but felt a little bit today, and hopefully in the next few days I'll start feeling some energy from it. Thanks for the suggestion -- I have high hopes for their stuff once by body gets with the program!PistolsAtDawn wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 9:01 pm Try the offerings from Fused Flora. They are fast across the board!
I'll give that a try, thanks! Your description makes me even more excited about it. I do feel like FF will work well for me once I get adjusted to it and find the right dosage for me.

Madvillain626 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 2:15 pm Lucky Herbal's High Octane. Kicks like a mule, made colors more vivid and I hadn't felt those effects since the honeymoon phase. Good pain relief too. My bag is from an October batch so I can't speak on the current one I but haven't had a dud batch yet. Blends amazingly with reds. It's my favorite white strain right now (i love otie's white elephant too). currently in stock
DTEBotanicals has a great fast green called Imperial Green Dragon. Next drop is coming today at 4pm central

dte drop got moved to Monday between 12-4pm central, fyiAliJustali wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 5:04 pmMadvillain626 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 2:15 pm Lucky Herbal's High Octane. Kicks like a mule, made colors more vivid and I hadn't felt those effects since the honeymoon phase. Good pain relief too. My bag is from an October batch so I can't speak on the current one I but haven't had a dud batch yet. Blends amazingly with reds. It's my favorite white strain right now (i love otie's white elephant too). currently in stock
DTEBotanicals has a great fast green called Imperial Green Dragon. Next drop is coming today at 4pm central
I will order Lucky's High Octane and hopefully manage to beat the DTE crowds one of these days. Thank you!
I'd already knocked my dose down a little but tried an even lower dose because of what you said -- it worked! Thank you!!


Have you ever had kratom give you anxiety? I haven't, and I'm thinking that whatever kratom hits that causes anxiety overlaps with whatever causes the energy boost. Maybe we have less of that than most people do?
Yeah, but I try to save my fun for the weekends.FartBlaster wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:11 am Have you tried doing a fat rail of coke off a strippers ass? I highly recommend you do this at least once in your lifetime
Thanks for the suggestions! I'll definitely go to the trading post once I meet the requirements. I do seem to react differently than many do to kratom. I see people talk about it giving them anxiety or making them jittery, and I've never experienced that. Not complaining, but I think that might be related to not feeling as much stimulation.Kelleytoons wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 9:33 am When I was playing tennis (<g> only been a month or so ago but it seems like years now. Sigh) I was taking whites before each match for mostly exactly this reason (well, and pain relief as well). But for me just about any white did it so I guess I can only list the whites I like the best.
Oties Elephant, which you already said wasn't it, TFH Afterburner, Top-Shelf WMD, Deep Jungle MD, White Daylak and their Bali Blitz, and a lot of Denette's - heck, any white from him.
However, I suspect you aren't really going to find what you want without trying a LOT of things, since it doesn't appear like you react the way many do. So just keep trying - I'd recommend going to the trading post and seeing what little sampler packs and things you might pick up. Almost anything from TFH to me has been top notch in this respect (I won't go into an important match without some of their stuff).
Thanks for the suggestion! I currently have over 20 new (to me) options to tryKratomFamily wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 9:51 am We've got a great green on the site called Green Bliss our customers love. We have all the reviews posted underneath the product. It's the best green I've ever had in 20 years of drinking tea. I think you'll like it.

I also don't get jittery - never have and never quite understood people saying that (then again, caffeine doesn't do that for me, either - it actually sort of puts me to sleep). But what I *do* get from those whites I mention is lots of energy AND an overall "positive" vibe that's hard to describe (some folks say euphoric but that doesn't quite sound right to me - more of a just "boy, I'm really happy to play right now" without getting out of hand). One thing for sure - try the "turbo boost" method with almost any kratom you currently have (take 2/3 of your dose, wait 30 minutes, and then take 1/3 of almost ANYTHING, preferably something not so great. What happens is hard to describe except it seems to boost up the original, primo dose like a second stage booster. For tennis this really REALLY helps me).AliJustali wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:33 pm Thanks for the suggestions! I'll definitely go to the trading post once I meet the requirements. I do seem to react differently than many do to kratom. I see people talk about it giving them anxiety or making them jittery, and I've never experienced that. Not complaining, but I think that might be related to not feeling as much stimulation.
Well, there goes my theory, then!Kelleytoons wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:55 pm
I also don't get jittery - never have and never quite understood people saying that (then again, caffeine doesn't do that for me, either - it actually sort of puts me to sleep). But what I *do* get from those whites I mention is lots of energy AND an overall "positive" vibe that's hard to describe (some folks say euphoric but that doesn't quite sound right to me - more of a just "boy, I'm really happy to play right now" without getting out of hand).
You know, I was lurking on this forum for a while before joining and posting, and I saw you mention something like that. For some reason, I didn't think to apply it to this. It's something I will definitely have to try! Thanks!Kelleytoons wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:55 pm
One thing for sure - try the "turbo boost" method with almost any kratom you currently have (take 2/3 of your dose, wait 30 minutes, and then take 1/3 of almost ANYTHING, preferably something not so great. What happens is hard to describe except it seems to boost up the original, primo dose like a second stage booster. For tennis this really REALLY helps me).
After say I agree with you, green bliss, green zen, and Holiday, are wonderful strains!!! Thank you for providinge xcellent quality products!!KratomFamily wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 9:51 am We've got a great green on the site called Green Bliss our customers love. We have all the reviews posted underneath the product. It's the best green I've ever had in 20 years of drinking tea. I think you'll like it.
So, not that I went and looked at your products or anything... but I went and looked at your products. I have some questions if you happen to see this:KratomFamily wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 9:51 am We've got a great green on the site called Green Bliss our customers love. We have all the reviews posted underneath the product. It's the best green I've ever had in 20 years of drinking tea. I think you'll like it.
No I never get anxiety from kratom, even the fastest strains make me calm but alertAliJustali wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:16 pmHave you ever had kratom give you anxiety? I haven't, and I'm thinking that whatever kratom hits that causes anxiety overlaps with whatever causes the energy boost. Maybe we have less of that than most people do?
Also: I recently tried javanica for the first time and found the alertness I was looking for. Just FYI in case you want to give it a try.
I picked up this one and their White MD and have had a chance to try them a few times each now. They both work really well for me -- thanks for the recommendation!Madvillain626 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 2:15 pm Lucky Herbal's High Octane. Kicks like a mule, made colors more vivid and I hadn't felt those effects since the honeymoon phase. Good pain relief too. My bag is from an October batch so I can't speak on the current one I but haven't had a dud batch yet. Blends amazingly with reds. It's my favorite white strain right now (i love otie's white elephant too). currently in stock
DTEBotanicals has a great fast green called Imperial Green Dragon. Next drop is coming today at 4pm central

No problemo! DTE just did a restock an hour ago and they have a new white strain - Ancient White Sunda. Haven't tried it yet but it's supposed to be mid-upper.AliJustali wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:23 pmI picked up this one and their White MD and have had a chance to try them a few times each now. They both work really well for me -- thanks for the recommendation!Madvillain626 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 2:15 pm Lucky Herbal's High Octane. Kicks like a mule, made colors more vivid and I hadn't felt those effects since the honeymoon phase. Good pain relief too. My bag is from an October batch so I can't speak on the current one I but haven't had a dud batch yet. Blends amazingly with reds. It's my favorite white strain right now (i love otie's white elephant too). currently in stock
DTEBotanicals has a great fast green called Imperial Green Dragon. Next drop is coming today at 4pm central
I swooped in and grabbed that one right at 6:00 central. I also grabbed the yellow indo, but more for "feel good" qualities than stimulating ones. I'm looking forward to them both!Madvillain626 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:07 pmNo problemo! DTE just did a restock an hour ago and they have a new white strain - Ancient White Sunda. Haven't tried it yet but it's supposed to be mid-upper.AliJustali wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:23 pmI picked up this one and their White MD and have had a chance to try them a few times each now. They both work really well for me -- thanks for the recommendation!Madvillain626 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 2:15 pm Lucky Herbal's High Octane. Kicks like a mule, made colors more vivid and I hadn't felt those effects since the honeymoon phase. Good pain relief too. My bag is from an October batch so I can't speak on the current one I but haven't had a dud batch yet. Blends amazingly with reds. It's my favorite white strain right now (i love otie's white elephant too). currently in stock
DTEBotanicals has a great fast green called Imperial Green Dragon. Next drop is coming today at 4pm central

Thanks, I've heard people say they like it. I might pick some up next time I order from them. I got their Super Green a week or two ago and was pleasantly surprised with the energy it gave me.
Thanks for your input - it's much appreciated! I'm currently in the process of trying several from TKF, and Green Bliss is one of them. I know I like their Firestorm, but I'm still trying to get a better read on the others.
Glad that worked for you. I think a lot of folks go up too much instead of down a bit, and then boom, they try once and it's like wow what have I been missing.AliJustali wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:27 pmI'd already knocked my dose down a little but tried an even lower dose because of what you said -- it worked! Thank you!!
And thanks for the update, Madvillain!
Oh my goodness, that was a lot of exclamation points for someone who doesn't use them much.