SoulisticHerbs

[trigger]

I’m not trying to be a dick. I sympathize with the issues this vendor has been having. I totally do. But take a breath and collect yourself and at least get organized with an up to date menu and price list. Personally, I’m not a fan of the ziplock bags that DG uses - came off as cheap to me - and Soulistic uses the same ones. With strains written in sharpie. I would pay more for more effort. If the leaf blew my mind, that would be one thing. I bought stand up bags from amazon to store what I bought from Soulistic, and I’ll probably print labels too. I think this should be a standard we expect from legit vendors. Maybe that’s nit picky. I don’t need a website, but at a minimum, a formatted menu.

Part of my concern is someone is seizing the opportunity to pretend to be Soulistic to steal order money.

[Kaidensmom]

Got an email a bit ago from soulisticherbs @ gmail saying they are taking orders by members only and by email only “not on the website” and to “order while you can.” I replied asking for a menu and immediately - within seconds - received the same scribbled piece of paper shown here on the forum, and whoever responded said “soul gave this to me and I haven’t typed it up yet because we are running out of some of it.” And then it was signed by “Soulistic Herbs”...

So I’m kind of confused. It feels like his email was hacked or something shady or weird is going on. I’ve wanted to order some good reds because in my 2 large orders I mostly got greens on his recommendation, but when I asked here what reds were good, no one answered.

I don’t mind ordering via email and I get members only vendors. It seems like a cutthroat biz these days. But this handwritten stuff is too shady and weird for me. It would take me 2 minutes to type their entire menu out and format it. Less time than it took me to write this post. And why the rush? Order while I can? This is weird.

I found that to be super sketchy too, but I checked with swablero, and he said that it's legit. My email didn't say "order while you can" though... that would've been a red flag for me too.

[trigger]

Right? That’s kind of weird. And I don’t know swablero personally, so that plus the fact he posted the same scribbled menu here that I got makes me kinda sus.

[trigger]

To be clear here, I’ve ordered several split kilos from Soulistic. He’s super nice in emails, and I got my orders quickly. He is very much a real vendor selling real kratom. I fully expected he would fulfill orders to people when the site problems happened. It’s just this new twist is odd to me. Thought y’all should know.

[Sxd431]

I also got an email this morning from Soulistic that sounds similar. It was titled "Soulistic Herbs taking Orders! Get it While You Can!"

[Oletimer]

I think it's just chaotic, like they said,,,at the moment, thus the confusion, ,swab has been extremely helpful,,they are just ironing out the bumps,just like the bumps in the trading post when it started,,,,I can see the fear of hacking,,what trigger said,,but I believe it's all legit,,,I think swab is a gem for sharing this info,,,,

[acejestyr15]

I think it's just chaotic, like they said,,,at the moment, thus the confusion, ,swab has been extremely helpful,,they are just ironing out the bumps,just like the bumps in the trading post when it started,,,,I can see the fear of hacking,,what trigger said,,but I believe it's all legit,,,I think swab is a gem for sharing this info,,,,

Well put oletimer! I was trying to figure out how to put into words how I felt about way this topic is progressing but yeah just like you said.... Just trying to get past some rough times which is causing some confusion and worry which I get to a certain extent. But, seems to me that soulistic has been nothing but awesome and very quickly gained some well deserved loyalty. I have not ordered from him yet, but plan to either this week or next week regardless of the current issues he's having.

[trigger]

That’s the excuse I had in my head for them - under stress and worried people would think they were going out of business and not gonna send product or that people might do chargebacks or they would lose their good will they had built. My advice would be to relax and take a deep breath and type up a proper menu and try to keep things appearing non-chaotic to customers. These things happen in this business. Roll with the punches. I wish them good luck.

[swablero]

I think it's just chaotic, like they said,,,at the moment, thus the confusion, ,swab has been extremely helpful,,they are just ironing out the bumps,just like the bumps in the trading post when it started,,,,I can see the fear of hacking,,what trigger said,,but I believe it's all legit,,,I think swab is a gem for sharing this info,,,,

Well put oletimer! I was trying to figure out how to put into words how I felt about way this topic is progressing but yeah just like you said.... Just trying to get past some rough times which is causing some confusion and worry which I get to a certain extent. But, seems to me that soulistic has been nothing but awesome and very quickly gained some well deserved loyalty. I have not ordered from him yet, but plan to either this week or next week regardless of the current issues he's having.

I think oletimer and Ace see the big picture and take a step back from the current moment. People have their own value systems and project it onto the world they see. That's how it goes.Thats what I'm doing. Everyone is entitled to their opinions and to make generalizations and draw conclusions. What I read on this thread gives misleading picture of the vendor. Soul started as a collector and connoisseur similar to Smiley or Harry. Initially most of his sales went to members of the MeWe community of which he was an active participant. I won't speak to the quality of his leaf. People have to try it for themselves. I'm very happy with what Ive bought and loaded up on the batches I like when I felt they were unique and wont be easily replaced. Soul orders small batch and unlike other vendors he is not concerned with keeping a particular strain in stock. He's more than likely to move on to another vendor and different strains. Each batch is different anyway and he'd rather move on to the next supplier, the next fire batch, He can do that with small lot. He's not like RVA assuring he has the fire PMD everyone is expecting or STH trying to do a seamless restock on the Bota everyone wants.

Soul's focus is on finding new batches, He's constantly ordering and testing. He is deeply rooted in the supplier infrastructure. He is restless and wants to get something new. He specializes in uncovering small batch farmers who are over looked by the big vendors and cant come up with the 250 kilo minimum required for some big vendors. See Ballz' post earlier in this thread about that. Soul buys 20 kilo lots, 50 kilo lots. Hell pay more per kilo than a vendor who wont take less than 250 kilos. He'll also work with the same vendors that the other big vendors work except he'll buy a different product from them. He'll get a different batch then the Smileys or RVA. Soul has a different business model. He gets some amazing stuff reminiscent of the leaf circulated 5 years ago. This is a different dynamic and it needs to be appreciated. And this is not to detract from other vendors in anyway.

Does he use the plymor bags that DG uses and mark it with a sharpie. Yes. I think in the scheme of things its not a big deal. The bags ares strong. I transfer my leaf anyway. If this is a show stopper for you then fine, But you have to put a criticism like that in context.

He had some pretty bad news last week when his account was frozen. He still got all the orders out in a reasonable amount of time. His repeat customers didnt doubt him for a second. Soul is basically a one man show and there is a consequence to focusing on acquisition and distribution. He farms the emails and website out to friends. Would Mr Smiley do this? No. I don't think so. All the credit to STH, He runs a great business. For better or worse Soul has a different business model.

Is Soul undergoing some growing pains? The word is getting out and he's beginning to be known outside of MeWe. Could that effect his small batch model? We were all happy to see he changed to a members only situation. This mechanism scales better. This will help him adjust to growth and avoid problems with payment processors. Things might seem disorganized right now to some. The website with the strain lists wont be here for a few days. The emails aren't coming off as professional. You can look hard at this and say "this isnt the way to run a business" and you wouldn't be wrong. Especially when you're used to the incredibly accommodating vendors who are out there.

I mentioned some of these issues to Soul. He acknowledged things weren't perfect right now. He went on to talk about the weather in Indonesia which had been good recently and that he managed to get his stuff shipped before the Ramadan break and has some new leaf coming. He's tracking the shipments from Indonesia and he'll have a room full of leaf soon and plenty of people who want to try it.

There's a lot of vendors and a lot of very good leaf out there, When I buy leaf I'm concerned with two things First, is it high-quality? We can all afford to be very selective and we don't need to buy the same leaf over and over again. I cant tell you how many bags of RVA PMD I have sitting in my basement. The second thing is reliability. Again its all just my opinion, the way I see the situation personally. Soul meets that criteria.

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[instantKARMA]

I think it's just chaotic, like they said,,,at the moment, thus the confusion, ,swab has been extremely helpful,,they are just ironing out the bumps,just like the bumps in the trading post when it started,,,,I can see the fear of hacking,,what trigger said,,but I believe it's all legit,,,I think swab is a gem for sharing this info,,,,

Well put oletimer! I was trying to figure out how to put into words how I felt about way this topic is progressing but yeah just like you said.... Just trying to get past some rough times which is causing some confusion and worry which I get to a certain extent. But, seems to me that soulistic has been nothing but awesome and very quickly gained some well deserved loyalty. I have not ordered from him yet, but plan to either this week or next week regardless of the current issues he's having.

I think oletimer and Ace see the big picture and take a step back from the current moment. People have their own value systems and project it onto the world they see. That's how it goes.Thats what I'm doing. Everyone is entitled to their opinions and to make generalizations and draw conclusions. What I read on this thread gives misleading picture of the vendor. Soul started as a collector and connoisseur similar to Smiley or Harry. Initially most of his sales went to members of the MeWe community of which he was an active participant. I won't speak to the quality of his leaf. People have to try it for themselves. I'm very happy with what Ive bought and loaded up on the batches I like when I felt they were unique and wont be easily replaced. Soul orders small batch and unlike other vendors he is not concerned with keeping a particular strain in stock. He's more than likely to move on to another vendor and different strains. Each batch is different anyway and he'd rather move on to the next supplier, the next fire batch, He can do that with small lot. He's not like RVA assuring he has the fire PMD everyone is expecting or STH trying to do a seamless restock on the Bota everyone wants.

Soul's focus is on finding new batches, He's constantly ordering and testing. He is deeply rooted in the supplier infrastructure. He is restless and wants to get something new. He specializes in uncovering small batch farmers who are over looked by the big vendors and cant come up with the 250 kilo minimum required for some big vendors. See Ballz' post earlier in this thread about that. Soul buys 20 kilo lots, 50 kilo lots. Hell pay more per kilo than a vendor who wont take less than 250 kilos. He'll also work with the same vendors that the other big vendors work except he'll buy a different product from them. He'll get a different batch then the Smileys or RVA. Soul has a different business model. He gets some amazing stuff reminiscent of the leaf circulated 5 years ago. This is a different dynamic and it needs to be appreciated. And this is not to detract from other vendors in anyway.

Does he use the plymor bags that DG uses and mark it with a sharpie. Yes. I think in the scheme of things its not a big deal. The bags ares strong. I transfer my leaf anyway. If this is a show stopper for you then fine, But you have to put a criticism like that in context.

He had some pretty bad news last week when his account was frozen. He still got all the orders out in a reasonable amount of time. His repeat customers didnt doubt him for a second. Soul is basically a one man show and there is a consequence to focusing on acquisition and distribution. He farms the emails and website out to friends. Would Mr Smiley do this? No. I don't think so. All the credit to STH, He runs a great business. For better or worse Soul has a different business model.

Is Soul undergoing some growing pains? The word is getting out and he's beginning to be known outside of MeWe. Could that effect his small batch model? We were all happy to see he changed to a members only situation. This mechanism scales better. This will help him adjust to growth and avoid problems with payment processors. Things might seem disorganized right now to some. The website with the strain lists wont be here for a few days. The emails aren't coming off as professional. You can look hard at this and say "this isnt the way to run a business" and you wouldn't be wrong. Especially when you're used to the incredibly accommodating vendors who are out there.

I mentioned some of these issues to Soul. He acknowledged things weren't perfect right now. He went on to talk about the weather in Indonesia which had been good recently and that he managed to get his stuff shipped before the Ramadan break and has some new leaf coming. He's tracking the shipments from Indonesia and he'll have a room full of leaf soon and plenty of people who want to try it.

There's a lot of vendors and a lot of very good leaf out there, When I buy leaf I'm concerned with two things First, is it high-quality? We can all afford to be very selective and we don't need to buy the same leaf over and over again. I cant tell you how many bags of RVA PMD I have sitting in my basement. The second thing is reliability. Again its all just my opinion, the way I see the situation personally. Soul meets that criteria.

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As you can see from my previous comments on this thread, I NEVER had a single worry about Soulistic
NOT fulfilling his orders, AND my first order was made just as Soul began having the "troubles." I've seen
a couple of other vendor sites go down while having an an unfilled order and, for some reason, I had no
doubts about getting them either.

As to the quality of Soul's leaf, well, I've found it nothing short of freakin' amazing. I have a few DG strains
that I thought were remarkable, but after sampling Soul's leaf, it's like WTF!?!?! For me, the PMD
and Green Ketapang were just straight out kick-ASS, and the other six strains I snagged were NOT just
"good average leaf" as Mr. BallZ says in regards to certain vendors. The other six were as good, or better,
than anything I've had in the past year. I think most DoubleM'ers have read about my thoughts on Kraydo,
MitraMan, Smiley Time and Sosa. Soulistic is right there with them, and a few strains, maybe better. The
Green Ketapang knocked my socks off and, to me, it was better than anything I've had from DG. No offense
to DG cuz his leaf is excellent, but price, not so mush!

I get that some people were concerned about getting their orders and that's understandable, but we were
all assured by swablero that all was good! I know he's earned my confidence and trust and, above all, respect
over the past six months that I've been a member. All of us owe a debt of confidence and gratitude to swablero! ! !

Anyway, to quote the eminent Mr. BallZ from an earlier post, "Life can change in the blink of an eye, SO don't
sweat the small stuff."

[Brad frerichs]

I thought I was fkn crazy lmao we’re putting to much effort into this soulistics is great! There are too many quality vendors right now. Spread the love:) Give soul a chance to catch back up and running. Happy burning

[swablero]

[... everyone is expecting or STH trying to do a seamless restock on the Bota everyone wants.

Soul's focus is on finding new batches, He's constantly ordering and testing. He is deeply rooted in the supplier infrastructure. He is restless and wants to get something new. He specializes in uncovering small batch farmers who are over looked by the big vendors and cant come up with the 250 kilo minimum required for some big vendors. See Ballz' post earlier in this thread about that. Soul buys 20 kilo lots, 50 kilo lots. Hell pay more per kilo than a vendor who wont take less than 250 kilos. He'll also work with the same vendors that the other big vendors work except he'll buy a different product from them. He'll get a different batch then the Smileys or RVA. Soul has a different business model. He gets some amazing stuff reminiscent of the leaf circulated 5 years ago. This is a different dynamic and it needs to be appreciated. And this is not to detract from other vendors in anyway.

Soul is basically a one man show and there is a consequence to focusing on acquisition and distribution. He farms the emails and website out to friends. Would Mr Smiley do this? No. I don't think so. All the credit to STH, He runs a great business. For better or worse Soul has a different business model.

Here you go again, you call me out and I WILL speak up... I called you out on MeWe and will do it here too. I'm sure everyone appreciates your help and being the Soul spokesperson...but I DO NOT appreciate you acting like you know how I run my business or how I operate.

Because I have grown and talked about this publicly doesn't mean anyone knows how I run my business. What is your obsession with comparing and me and Soul? And you definitely can't compare me to RVA

I very much operate as a small batch vendor and work close with suppliers to get the fire....and we just relased the Green Bota about 2 months ago...? I'm a full time vendor so fortunately I was able to grow and keep things small batch without expanding much and still stay with the original way I've always operated because all my time goes into this business.... So I'm still secruing small batches and having them shipped every 2-3 weeks, I don't buy 250+, I always get smaller shipments of particular batches, and usually have some delays but luckily shipping has been going smooth, so I've been able to restock as needed and secure batches before they are even ready to mill. Like always , "Max amounts" go up when we get low on these small batches in between shipments, and have even implemented batch #s to help with everything.

I'm restless with bringing in new leaf and always search for new smaller batch suppliers and sending out samples and working hard to find the fire, and to keep things consistent with current suppliers...don't try and take that from me. its never been about the money, its about offering a great service and great products which results in happy customers, that's why I work hard. Some batches are better than others , but we've been very lucky through the wet season and now things are getting really good as dry season leaf is coming in.

I've been very fortunate to have an amazing customer base with 75%+ that are very loyal customers , and they all know know I operate, so this is mainly a reply for you asking please leave me out of your discussion of this "bigger vendor" comparison since you have no idea what your talking about. I could buy 250+ from several suppliers, but I don't , and this makes a lot more work for me to do what I do. I've been talking about getting to the point of membership only for months and we are about to that point because I'm not letting go of what I've worked hard to accomplish.

You came along to MeWe as a new guy last week and then all of a sudden you start saying all the same stuff this group of "Smiley Haters" have blabbing for over a year on there. I saw you taking this stuff in the chat room and called you out , but then you act like you didn't say half the stuff you did, but I have this all noted... and it was exactly what people have been saying from many months ago, so this made it very obvious it's still going on because you were the new guy saying the old stuff, like this is an ego boost or others maybe trying to gain something for talking bad about me ... so I decided to finally speak up , after I've always just looked the other way because this non sense really doesn't affect me. Maybe these people just like hating on my success. I understand you don't like me chiming in on here when my leaf is being compared or talked about, that's fine, but I'm very active as I'm also very busy with being a full time vendor and still working very close with customers. I'm not here to defend my leaf, all that can ride out , but will defend myself in this case.

I still run a very tight operation, work very close with suppliers and customers, nothing has changed besides the fact we do more orders and have more variety now. I've been already looking into revamping a few things to limit some selections and show which strains are from (a,b,c) suplliers. I'm only speaking up here because you just called me out, and I'm tired of this " Mr know it all" about me, so please leave me out of this STH vs Soul thing that seems to have been going on for awhile. Nobody knows how I operate, but I am competitive and work hard so I'm active on these forums and don't hide in the rare case of an unhappy customer.

I always stand behind quality and offer a great service that bigger vendors can't do, so I'm still standing strong my friend, you or whoever wants to come along, vendor or spokesperson or whoever, if I'm called out , I will speak up and stand my ground.

Your are God's Gift to Kratom, Mr Smiley. What would we do without you popping into every thread to set things straight and spamming us daily to to remind us of your magnificence. Some say you're paranoid and that your leaf just isn't what it used to be. I take exception to that. You are the King of us all Mr Smiley and in the future I will prostrate myself and put no other vendor before you. We may not know it but we are truly blessed to have you as a part of the Kratom community and thank you for constantly bringing that to our attention. And please dont worry, we will continue to fill your coffers with our gold.

[trigger]

I think it's just chaotic, like they said,,,at the moment, thus the confusion, ,swab has been extremely helpful,,they are just ironing out the bumps,just like the bumps in the trading post when it started,,,,I can see the fear of hacking,,what trigger said,,but I believe it's all legit,,,I think swab is a gem for sharing this info,,,,

Well put oletimer! I was trying to figure out how to put into words how I felt about way this topic is progressing but yeah just like you said.... Just trying to get past some rough times which is causing some confusion and worry which I get to a certain extent. But, seems to me that soulistic has been nothing but awesome and very quickly gained some well deserved loyalty. I have not ordered from him yet, but plan to either this week or next week regardless of the current issues he's having.

I think oletimer and Ace see the big picture and take a step back from the current moment. People have their own value systems and project it onto the world they see. That's how it goes.Thats what I'm doing. Everyone is entitled to their opinions and to make generalizations and draw conclusions. What I read on this thread gives misleading picture of the vendor. Soul started as a collector and connoisseur similar to Smiley or Harry. Initially most of his sales went to members of the MeWe community of which he was an active participant. I won't speak to the quality of his leaf. People have to try it for themselves. I'm very happy with what Ive bought and loaded up on the batches I like when I felt they were unique and wont be easily replaced. Soul orders small batch and unlike other vendors he is not concerned with keeping a particular strain in stock. He's more than likely to move on to another vendor and different strains. Each batch is different anyway and he'd rather move on to the next supplier, the next fire batch, He can do that with small lot. He's not like RVA assuring he has the fire PMD everyone is expecting or STH trying to do a seamless restock on the Bota everyone wants.

Soul's focus is on finding new batches, He's constantly ordering and testing. He is deeply rooted in the supplier infrastructure. He is restless and wants to get something new. He specializes in uncovering small batch farmers who are over looked by the big vendors and cant come up with the 250 kilo minimum required for some big vendors. See Ballz' post earlier in this thread about that. Soul buys 20 kilo lots, 50 kilo lots. Hell pay more per kilo than a vendor who wont take less than 250 kilos. He'll also work with the same vendors that the other big vendors work except he'll buy a different product from them. He'll get a different batch then the Smileys or RVA. Soul has a different business model. He gets some amazing stuff reminiscent of the leaf circulated 5 years ago. This is a different dynamic and it needs to be appreciated. And this is not to detract from other vendors in anyway.

Does he use the plymor bags that DG uses and mark it with a sharpie. Yes. I think in the scheme of things its not a big deal. The bags ares strong. I transfer my leaf anyway. If this is a show stopper for you then fine, But you have to put a criticism like that in context.

He had some pretty bad news last week when his account was frozen. He still got all the orders out in a reasonable amount of time. His repeat customers didnt doubt him for a second. Soul is basically a one man show and there is a consequence to focusing on acquisition and distribution. He farms the emails and website out to friends. Would Mr Smiley do this? No. I don't think so. All the credit to STH, He runs a great business. For better or worse Soul has a different business model.

Is Soul undergoing some growing pains? The word is getting out and he's beginning to be known outside of MeWe. Could that effect his small batch model? We were all happy to see he changed to a members only situation. This mechanism scales better. This will help him adjust to growth and avoid problems with payment processors. Things might seem disorganized right now to some. The website with the strain lists wont be here for a few days. The emails aren't coming off as professional. You can look hard at this and say "this isnt the way to run a business" and you wouldn't be wrong. Especially when you're used to the incredibly accommodating vendors who are out there.

I mentioned some of these issues to Soul. He acknowledged things weren't perfect right now. He went on to talk about the weather in Indonesia which had been good recently and that he managed to get his stuff shipped before the Ramadan break and has some new leaf coming. He's tracking the shipments from Indonesia and he'll have a room full of leaf soon and plenty of people who want to try it.

There's a lot of vendors and a lot of very good leaf out there, When I buy leaf I'm concerned with two things First, is it high-quality? We can all afford to be very selective and we don't need to buy the same leaf over and over again. I cant tell you how many bags of RVA PMD I have sitting in my basement. The second thing is reliability. Again its all just my opinion, the way I see the situation personally. Soul meets that criteria.

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Honestly, this gaslighting diatribe attempting to shoot down my concerns/opinions as my problem isn’t helping this vendor’s public image. Some of this felt like an attack, and I don’t appreciate it any more than Smiey apparently does. If I were you, I would take my “deep breath/relax” advice and let him run his own company and address his own customer concerns.

[beathappening]

What's up with the soulistic dick riding in this thread? Does he have a PR team now?

[Rnb1987]

Well this has certainly gotten out of control. I thought this thread was for reviewing soulistic and his strains. Seems like alit of this should be moved to a different thread.... but I’m pretty new here so maybe I don’t know what I’m talking about.

[Cj3]

Let me put in my two cents before the thread gets locked.

I ordered from Soulistic right before all this happened. He was very quick to respond and polite. Then the site went black.
Then I got a bunch of fire leaf delivered a day earlier than expected.
You can talk business models blah blah blah, but in the end, the guy sends good leaf at a good price.

Cj3

[Rnb1987]

I placed an order with soul on Friday afternoon right after the site went down. My order did not go out until Monday morning due to all the stuff you had going on. I received my order on Thursday I got hung up for about a day outside of DC. So far I am very impressed with his leaf. I ordered dark green pinoh, wild green and white kappaus and super md. Throughout the whole process he communicated well and kept me up to date. I will defiantly order from him again in the future. 5 out of 5 for sure.

[acejestyr15]

Wow this whole scenario turned into something way above and beyond necessary and there's obviously more to this swablero versus Mr. Smiley story!! Whatever it all is or however it all happened.... It doesn't belong here and is disrespectful to the group by both parties to be honest! I have never ordered from soulistic nor STH so there's no bias or anything like that. But, I will say that this is not a good look for STH as a company for me at very least nor is it a great look for swablero as an individual either.

How are any of the comments or the excessive shit talking but either party helpful in anyway?!?! Who here really needed or wanted to read manifestos by either person containing mostly useless drama which didn't serve much of a purpose at all?!

To me this whole thing has come off like a high school mean girls screaming match and it's just simply unnecessary!! If ya don't like someone's product or service then fine done use them.... Maybe even leave a review stating your opinion as many including myself have done before regarding other companies not involved in the specific thread. Likewise, if ya don't like a specific individual then that's fine too.... Steer clear of them best ya can and keep the drama to yourselves!! This place is supposed to be for like minded individuals to share opinions, reviews, and info on natural botanicals.... Kratom in particular. It is not for bickering and back and forth bullshit to be aired out for all of us to deal with come-on now!!! LONG STORY SHORT EVERYONE CHILL-OUT AND GET BSCK TO YOUR CORNERS....

[trigger]

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Part of my concern is someone is seizing the opportunity to pretend to be Soulistic to steal order money.

No one said he’s a bad vendor afaik, and pretty much everyone seems to have remained patient and trusting that he would deliver - and it looks like he did do just that. There’s simply no reason to bag on people for expressing mild and legitimate concerns over a vendor who has been having issues, nor is there reason to drag other vendors into it who weren’t involved. We all want him to stick around because he’s got quality product at great prices... everyone just needs to chill out.

[swablero]

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Part of my concern is someone is seizing the opportunity to pretend to be Soulistic to steal order money.

No one said he’s a bad vendor afaik, and pretty much everyone seems to have remained patient and trusting that he would deliver - and it looks like he did do just that. There’s simply no reason to bag on people for expressing mild and legitimate concerns over a vendor who has been having issues, nor is there reason to drag other vendors into it who weren’t involved. We all want him to stick around because he’s got quality product at great prices... everyone just needs to chill out.

Trigger you tell me to chill out but you're the one who keeps this thing going. I don't think I was "bagging" on anybody. Like everything you say that's your own interpretation. I made it clear that what I said was my opinion and i understood we all came from our own reality on this. Just because I made a point that in my opinion some people dont think vendor bags are important doesnt mean I'm attacking you. I was just giving my opinion just like you gave yours.

About Smiley, I dont think there was anything I said that wasn't true and I don't think I said anything bad. Smiley and myself have a history on mewe and there's context I won't go into here. He is a large vendor and an accomplished businessman and I was drawing a contrast to Soul in that respect. Again if you think I'm wrong fine I have no problem with that. If you want him to stick around thats fine but has nothing to do with this either, But your entitled to your opinion just as I am.

I apologize to the Double M community for bringing this on. I have motivations that I wont go into but my outburst to Smiley following his post was inappropriate and disrespectful to my friends on this forum.

[trigger]

Yup, it’s just me keepin it going. It’s all my fault. More gaslighting. Thanks.

[gravystainonmyshirt]

Its getting hot in here

[acejestyr15]

Trigger you tell me to chill out but you're the one who keeps this thing going. I don't think I was "bagging" on anybody. Like everything you say that's your own interpretation. I made it clear that what I said was my opinion and i understood we all came from our own reality on this. Just because I made a point that in my opinion some people dont think vendor bags are important doesnt mean I'm attacking you. I was just giving my opinion just like you gave yours.

About Smiley, I dont think there was anything I said that wasn't true and I don't think I said anything bad. Smiley and myself have a history on mewe and there's context I won't go into here. He is a large vendor and an accomplished businessman and I was drawing a contrast to Soul in that respect. Again if you think I'm wrong fine I have no problem with that. If you want him to stick around thats fine but has nothing to do with this either, But your entitled to your opinion just as I am.

I apologize to the Double M community for bringing this on. I have motivations that I wont go into but my outburst to Smiley following his post was inappropriate and disrespectful to my friends on this forum.

Swablero, thanks a bunch for addressing the subject and especially apologizing for what came out of comments that had been made!!! I for one, very much so appreciate you not hiding behind all this and coming right out to handle it head on! Everyone is entitled to their opinions of course no matter what they are.... But, on both sides of this specific altercation or any other altercations for that matter, attacking one another is unnecessary, unhelpful, and damages what I have thought we stood for here on this forum. The way it has now been handled I believe is appropriate and much need, so thank you.

Yup, it’s just me keepin it going. It’s all my fault. More gaslighting. Thanks.

But trigger, by continuing to attack swab both prior to and after apologizing for mistakes made is not a good not appropriate remedy either!!! You have no pulled yourself into the same category and gotten involved in the very same altercation which should have never even taken place..... Come-on dude!!! Why keep fueling a fire which is trying to be put out?!?!

Everyone back off, cool down, and let get back to business as usual. I live this place and all of the people involved in it, but these type things by all parties involved take away from the greatness and true meaning of it in my opinion. Looking in from the outside, I am only trying to be a no -biased mediator in order to extinguish a volatile situation in which I hope that it has at least helped....

[FuckHeroin]

Can you girls stop quoting each others wall of text on every single post

[acejestyr15]

Here we are trying to put a stop to attacks on one another and that's all you have to say?! Be relevant, helpful, and or productive or be gone dude!

[herbalhippie]

ahem

[beathappening]

Can you girls stop quoting each others wall of text on every single post

Lol are you using girls as an insult? That's messed up man. I didn't know you were a misogynist.

[Brad frerichs]

Can you girls stop quoting each others wall of text on every single post

Lol are you using girls as an insult? That's messed up man. I didn't know you were a misogynist.

He can be what ever the hell he wants to be. What’s it to you big mouth? Taking shots is not going to make this thread any better.

[Oletimer]

I wanted to chat about some great leaf,,from soul,,I'm going to start a new post,,,

[herbalhippie]

I wanted to chat about some great leaf,,from soul,,I'm going to start a new post,,,

Good because I'm about to lock this one.

I have to run some errands, I'll see how it's going when I get back.

[beathappening]

Can you girls stop quoting each others wall of text on every single post

Lol are you using girls as an insult? That's messed up man. I didn't know you were a misogynist.

He can be what ever the hell he wants to be. What’s it to you big mouth? Taking shots is not going to make this thread any better.

Yes, he can be a misogynist, you can be someone who doesn't understand irony, and I can be observant. See, we can all do it!

[acejestyr15]

I gotta bow out of this thread at this point it is still continuing on with numerous attacks and the insight/help that I have tried to provide has apparently been for nothing. I had really hoped that we could turn this thread around after it starting off so we'll!!!

I guess now have to hope that the new one oletimer has started will pick up the good aspects of this thread and leave 9ut all the useless attacks and drama. Thank you for your efforts Oletimer....

[trigger]

I gotta bow out of this thread at this point it is still continuing on with numerous attacks and the insight/help that I have tried to provide has apparently been for nothing. I had really hoped that we could turn this thread around after it starting off so we'll!!!

I guess now have to hope that the new one oletimer has started will pick up the good aspects of this thread and leave 9ut all the useless attacks and drama. Thank you for your efforts Oletimer....

What exactly did you think your contribution was? Your “insight/help” was to gaslight me more, cup swab’s nuts with both hands and then say “chill out” like everyone else has already done. If you wanted to steer this thread back to a review thread, you should have posted a review.

[acejestyr15]

Or did I state that both swablero and Mr. Smiley acted disrespectfully?! So the only nut cupping going on here is you sitting behind a keyboard cupping your own acting like a tough guy. Idk what your problem is but take it some place else! I also states I've never ordered from Soulistic so what exactly should I leave a review of?!

Just move on, and if you can't, at very least keep my name outta your mouth! We have never had any prior interaction and I've done nothing to you.

P. S. PLEASE LOCK THIS THREAD IT HAS BECOME A DISGRACEFUL SHIT-SHOW.

[herbalhippie]

Locking

If you guys want to continue this, please take it to PM.