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Oletimer wrote:, beat did that early on,everyones passions are different, no need to be angered by someone else passions,why provoke people the reasons, hope beat gets their anger worked out,,it's not healthy,
An alter argument could be made that such fixation on ones anger is a demonstration of one own shortcomings. But that would be immature and silly now wouldn't it? Hopefully oletimer will be pleased I am in fine physical health. I made it clear that I apologized and am willing to move forward. IT IS now your turn to be leave the pettiness and personal slights behind. It's quite enough.

If you'd like you a personal apology, I will happily oblige, simply ask. Or you could leave it behind you instead of continuing this last ludicrous display of uncivilized.behavior. it's quite in your sirs or madams corner.
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Oletimer wrote:Brave 777,thanks for sharing oregano oil,,my son has a lot of pain in gums where teeth were extracted months ago, and nerve pain I'n surrounding teeth,maybe this could help,,BTW, I'm 63 had 2 fle vaccines, both times I got flu,,only 2 times I ever had flu ,for me I say screw it,if it is not helping, why do it, I am not anti vax or pro either, I just know if it doesn't work for me, why do it, As far as off topic, beat did that early on,everyones passions are different, no need to be angered by someone else passions,why provoke people into anger with remarks, ,agree to disagree and leave it at that, , I could go on but I will leave it, ,,there's other factors here that explain the reasons, hope beat gets their anger worked out,,it's not healthy,
No problem, hope oregano helps your son well, just be careful and delude with coconut oil or olive oil. It is very potent, i do think its most potent on the market. Also use it temporarily and do plan for son dentist visit because long term use of oregano can damage skin inside mouth if used raw and not deluded, i always use it raw form 2 drops on Q tip, dont rub it to much, 2-3 seconds rub on side of cum is enough to freeze the pain. Once in a while mixed with coconut oil after brush teeth to flush mouth is great. Good for bad fungus on feet or nails or what ever, read up a big list on google what it can be applied for. Many use it Alzheimer or bad forgetful memory, helps improve it. Just like kratom, to much of anything can be a bad thing, use responsibly. Good Luck.
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Alrighty, thanks for the info, ,hopefully it help,nothing else helps!
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beathappening wrote:
Oletimer wrote:, beat did that early on,everyones passions are different, no need to be angered by someone else passions,why provoke people the reasons, hope beat gets their anger worked out,,it's not healthy,
An alter argument could be made that such fixation on ones anger is a demonstration of one own shortcomings. But that would be immature and silly now wouldn't it? Hopefully oletimer will be pleased I am in fine physical health. I made it clear that I apologized and am willing to move forward. IT IS now your turn to be leave the pettiness and personal slights behind. It's quite enough.

If you'd like you a personal apology, I will happily oblige, simply ask. Or you could leave it behind you instead of continuing this last ludicrous display of uncivilized.behavior. it's quite in your sirs or madams corner.
You don’t have anything to apologize for as far as I can tell.
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brave777 wrote: Just some more info where Bill Gates openly says vaccines to reduce population on CNN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjj4Iq- ... kOSZBbKlTW

Also his doctor reveals Bill Gates never Vaccinated his kids and strictly was against it!
http://www.defenddemocracy.press/bill-g ... -children/
I have no issue with Brave, and no desire to create one. Generally find his Kratom related posts well thought out and and find them useful. But....I think it's only fair to call out false stories such as the ones quoted above. Here are the facts regarding these two.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/bill- ... opulation/

https://www.politifact.com/punditfact/s ... -to-vacci/
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One more...
brave777 wrote:Vaccine Pioneer Admits Adding CANCER CAUSING VIRUS to Vaccine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeOt_uFPkg0
A bit of a long read here. Bottom line is no one denies that some early polio vaccines were contaminated with a simian virus, but there is no evidence that anyone contracted cancer as a result.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cdc-a ... o-vaccine/
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Pete, Its not false, there is truth in it as it is with another side of the coin with yours. End story Flu SHots are not for me. If it helps you, you much welcome to take them. They are free these days, they will even give you gift cards or discounts in many stores for you to get one. Who can refuse a good freebie for a flu shot? :P There is a good reason its called a FLu shot, openly tell you what it is. One thing i know, none of the elites vaccinate their kids.

David Icke - his new video talked about vaccines 3 days ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XsLSXvqO7I

Has some very good points, so take your journals out and take notes.
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David Icke’s Wikipedia page - the first sentence lists him as a professional conspiracy theorist. :lol:
Maybe you think you have done more research than anyone else (a bold claim considering you have no idea how much research anyone else has done), but the sources of your research are widely debunked and discredited and laughable. In other words, wrong. You might as well have spent all that time staring at pictures of cat buttholes - if you had done that instead, you would in fact know more about vaccines than you probably do now.

If you want to be misinformed and not get vaccines for your kids - putting cancer patients, newborns, and immunodeficient and immunocompromised people at risk, that’s fine. It’s selfish and shitty and you should be removed from polite society, but do whatever you want to do for yourself. However... If you go around trying to spread this moronic misinformation to other people to convince them to not vaccinate their family, then you’re pretty horrible.

Most of the anti-vaxxers I have encountered have also been conspiracy theorists in general with fucked up politics. A lot of flat earthers, birthers and 9/11 truthers. Some black salving, aged urine drinkers and white nationalists. Chemtrails and lizard people. It’s a disgusting privileged position to take, being anti-vaxx - especially when there are places in the world where desperate parents would give up everything just so that their children could get life saving vaccines.

I’m not going to share my personal stories or education or background. I’m not trying to educate or argue. This is just how I feel. I don’t mean to be calling you out specifically. I’ve had this argument enough times to know how it goes. Maybe you’re a great person otherwise. Who knows. I meant it when I said being antivax is evil though, and one thing I know of anti-vaxxers is that they all truly believe they are doing good despite the fact they certainly are not. So I generally don’t think the evil is intentional. At least there’s that.
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trigger wrote:David Icke’s Wikipedia page - the first sentence lists him as a professional conspiracy theorist. :lol:
Maybe you think you have done more research than anyone else (a bold claim considering you have no idea how much research anyone else has done), but the sources of your research are widely debunked and discredited and laughable. In other words, wrong. You might as well have spent all that time staring at pictures of cat buttholes - if you had done that instead, you would in fact know more about vaccines than you probably do now.

If you want to be misinformed and not get vaccines for your kids - putting cancer patients, newborns, and immunodeficient and immunocompromised people at risk, that’s fine. It’s selfish and shitty and you should be removed from polite society, but do whatever you want to do for yourself. However... If you go around trying to spread this moronic misinformation to other people to convince them to not vaccinate their family, then you’re pretty horrible.

Most of the anti-vaxxers I have encountered have also been conspiracy theorists in general with fucked up politics. A lot of flat earthers, birthers and 9/11 truthers. Some black salving, aged urine drinkers and white nationalists. Chemtrails and lizard people. It’s a disgusting privileged position to take, being anti-vaxx - especially when there are places in the world where desperate parents would give up everything just so that their children could get life saving vaccines.

I’m not going to share my personal stories or education or background. I’m not trying to educate or argue. This is just how I feel. I don’t mean to be calling you out specifically. I’ve had this argument enough times to know how it goes. Maybe you’re a great person otherwise. Who knows. I meant it when I said being antivax is evil though, and one thing I know of anti-vaxxers is that they all truly believe they are doing good despite the fact they certainly are not. So I generally don’t think the evil is intentional. At least there’s that.
DuDe trigger you bit the bullet, i was wondering who will bite it. YOu did it Trigger. But you do aware there is big groups defending elites like bill gates but when it comes to one men like david icke, shit falls on them. Some stuff he shares is based off science too mixed with conspiracy so if you knew that you wouldn't shit on him. I am sure he is way smarter then you are and you only have kratomites following great kratom reviews. A lot of stuff what was considered conspiracy from icke became true, so is it really called conspiracy then? There needs to be another name for it. Conspiracy is not the right word anymore. Just cause you dont understand something does not mean its false or fake or conspiracy. I will not let you shit on one man group david Icke, that is one ficked thing to do. If he had big elites group behind him, you would not be saying this crap. Its easy to shit on someone who thinks freely from their own heart. Admit it, your a mass follower. This nothing to do anti vaxers or lizard people, all i said he has some interesting points, a different point of view perhaps? What has 9-11, anti-vax or lizard people have to do with this? you bring a lot to the table to talk about. Then saying calling me out? I could bring a lot more people that are inside elite talk shit about vaccinem 9-11, lizard people or chemtrails but i chose david icke one man group to see who will shit on him first. you bite it. Its not cool by the way. As smart as you are, you dont have anything to offer on this subjects. I would advice you stick with finding great kratom websites and reviews, your good at that. The rest you are dont know what your talking about. Your very limited. Expect me to ignore you from now on if its not kratom related subjects, i agree to disagree with you and ignore anything not related to kratom stuff. Its not a bad thing, its just, you cant offer another perspective. ALl you know is trust wikipedia, everyone knows its biased. And some subjects are locked, you cant change it. and there is some powerful groups behind it. I would appreciate you more if you had your own opinion and not what Wikipedia has. Wikipedia is the new google like, or face-book. People are slowly jumping off those plat forms. You started a lot of subjects that you could of asked earlier, all this boiling inside you and then splashing everything out? African kids or saving poor kids with vaccines will not be answered since you really not in the know what really happens. Thinking your the great one is the mistake too, because you cant accept other perspectives. I might consider talking to you on your subjects if you apologies for shiting on david icke. For now no matter what you say, you will be ignored except kratom related sunjects.
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Interesting,, I was going to respond to the topic, but see it turned into something way more interesting, brave 7 ,your info about vaccines and conspiracy is very informative,, as far as the ignorance ,or trolling of breath and trigger, I call it trolling because their responses are clearly meant to disrupt, get a rise with their derogatory language and show lack of knowledge on serious issues, it definitely got a rise from me. Vaccines are fine if they work for you, I got mmr vaccine at 3, I changed from normal to halving autism, 30 years of living with a mental disability, without going into details I’ll just say I have struggled all my life with living with asp Berger’s, my therapist told me mmr vaccine is what activated gene , my nephew is only 8, same thing happened to him except he’s got a worse degree of it,, we noticed the change within a week after receiving vaccine, you people who call it evil wrong not to vaccinate for mmr are total idiots, theres good reason to be Leary if you are a parent, it’s a risk involved, before you judge people , why not visit kids who have been affected, look at the nightmare they live with, , I dont have kids, I don’t have relationships, my brother has kids, but they have their kids vaccinated in increments, to lower the risk, the fact is it’s too much vaccine for small kids, all at 1 time,,not all of us are the same, people like Beathap and trigger are full of useless ignorance, why not take your kid ,get them a mmr vaccine, maybe you’ll get lucky, maybe not, if I ever have a child I will not risk it, and brave 777, thank god there are people like you who have open minds, research, I dont trust big pharma, I believe comments by 2 people on here are trolls, you trolled for a reaction, this is mine, trolls are a menace to social media, and both of you follow each other, looking for a victim, 2 trolls are better than 1, Normal people can communicate in a respectable way, disagree, or not, they keep it civil, you 2 are disrupters, insulting, and have nothing else to do with your time, ,or you just miserable human beings, goodbye,!,
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Jkray wrote:Interesting,, I was going to respond to the topic, but see it turned into something way more interesting, brave 7 ,your info about vaccines and conspiracy is very informative,, as far as the ignorance ,or trolling of breath and trigger, I call it trolling because their responses are clearly meant to disrupt, get a rise with their derogatory language and show lack of knowledge on serious issues, it definitely got a rise from me. Vaccines are fine if they work for you, I got mmr vaccine at 3, I changed from normal to halving autism, 30 years of living with a mental disability, without going into details I’ll just say I have struggled all my life with living with asp Berger’s, my therapist told me mmr vaccine is what activated gene , my nephew is only 8, same thing happened to him except he’s got a worse degree of it,, we noticed the change within a week after receiving vaccine, you people who call it evil wrong not to vaccinate for mmr are total idiots, theres good reason to be Leary if you are a parent, it’s a risk involved, before you judge people , why not visit kids who have been affected, look at the nightmare they live with, , I dont have kids, I don’t have relationships, my brother has kids, but they have their kids vaccinated in increments, to lower the risk, the fact is it’s too much vaccine for small kids, all at 1 time,,not all of us are the same, people like Beathap and trigger are full of useless ignorance, why not take your kid ,get them a mmr vaccine, maybe you’ll get lucky, maybe not, if I ever have a child I will not risk it, and brave 777, thank god there are people like you who have open minds, research, I dont trust big pharma, I believe comments by 2 people on here are trolls, you trolled for a reaction, this is mine, trolls are a menace to social media, and both of you follow each other, looking for a victim, 2 trolls are better than 1, Normal people can communicate in a respectable way, disagree, or not, they keep it civil, you 2 are disrupters, insulting, and have nothing else to do with your time, ,or you just miserable human beings, goodbye,!,

I sorry to hear what happened to you, i also have friends who were damaged by vaccine. And to preach me to vaccinate my kids is a big no no, even thought i have no kids. Its like saying worship Jesus or you will go to hell, there is no difference. Now i want to point out beathappening did mention he aware of the issue and try to work on it and coming to a terms to agree to disagree instead being mad. I have respect for that kind of mind set. I like him. Trigger on the other hand is a complete 100% troll. Even his name and picture tells it all. If he would be smart he would never use trigger name because its so trollish with dumb picture that he still never changed, he was suppose too.
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I see where beat is working on it,he says, off topics is where he really needs to work on it,, he has a right to his own beliefs, passions, so does everyone, ,off topics that go against his passoins,,is where he needs to control himself,ignore them,,by inserting himself, he prevents those with different views from sharing what they are passionate about, ,that's what is messed up, there should be a way to block people on off topics the ones who disrupt the whole topic,, if he can't control himself from doing it,,blocking him would be only remedy, ,his passions are so strong,,that's great, whatever his thing is, I respect him, ,but he should control himself from disrupting people who don't think the same as him, what's the use of off topics if you can't talk about it with like minded people or those who may disagree, but communicate in a normal way,,
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If beath could communicate without being hostile, ,,idk,everyone else who has different viewpoints, don't agree,can communicate in a civil way,,beath gets hostile,every single thread, he makes it all about him and his feelings, ,I would say if you see a topic that is something you despise,,stay out of it,,, it's not aimed at you or about you,, the problem is you hate certain topics so much,,you don't want nobody talking about it,, the topic can be fine, those who agree and those who don't, most people can communicate without the hostility, ,but maybe your working on that,, :D
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Jkray wrote:Interesting,, I was going to respond to the topic, but see it turned into something way more interesting, brave 7 ,your info about vaccines and conspiracy is very informative,, as far as the ignorance ,or trolling of breath and trigger, I call it trolling because their responses are clearly meant to disrupt, get a rise with their derogatory language and show lack of knowledge on serious issues, it definitely got a rise from me. Vaccines are fine if they work for you, I got mmr vaccine at 3, I changed from normal to halving autism, 30 years of living with a mental disability, without going into details I’ll just say I have struggled all my life with living with asp Berger’s, my therapist told me mmr vaccine is what activated gene , my nephew is only 8, same thing happened to him except he’s got a worse degree of it,, we noticed the change within a week after receiving vaccine, you people who call it evil wrong not to vaccinate for mmr are total idiots, theres good reason to be Leary if you are a parent, it’s a risk involved, before you judge people , why not visit kids who have been affected, look at the nightmare they live with, , I dont have kids, I don’t have relationships, my brother has kids, but they have their kids vaccinated in increments, to lower the risk, the fact is it’s too much vaccine for small kids, all at 1 time,,not all of us are the same, people like Beathap and trigger are full of useless ignorance, why not take your kid ,get them a mmr vaccine, maybe you’ll get lucky, maybe not, if I ever have a child I will not risk it, and brave 777, thank god there are people like you who have open minds, research, I dont trust big pharma, I believe comments by 2 people on here are trolls, you trolled for a reaction, this is mine, trolls are a menace to social media, and both of you follow each other, looking for a victim, 2 trolls are better than 1, Normal people can communicate in a respectable way, disagree, or not, they keep it civil, you 2 are disrupters, insulting, and have nothing else to do with your time, ,or you just miserable human beings, goodbye,!,
I stopped reading when you called me an idiot... and since you called me an idiot, I’ll respond. Vaccines do not cause autism. This is a fact. There have been countless studies - Most recently one with over half a million people - showing no link between autism and vaccines. There was one discredited study suggesting there was, and it was based on bad data of a handful of people, and has been thoroughly debunked. I think it’s telling that your shrink said your vaccines caused autism. That’s medical malpractice. I also think it’s interesting you claim to have Asperger’s and can’t even spell it.

More evidence that anti-vaxers are evil is their disdain for autistic people. They would rather their child get fucking polio or die than have autism. It’s quite disgusting really. 40 years ago, autism went largely undiagnosed. Unless your kid was completely nonverbal and practically comatose like RainMan, they just called it ADD and handed out speed pills. I was diagnosed several different things growing up until a few years ago when I was diagnosed as autistic. I don’t feel as though this new diagnosis has improved my life any nor made it worse.

Asperger’s just means you aren’t great at social interaction - so I’ll forgive you calling me all sorts of names and saying nasty things. You don’t know what you are talking about. At all.
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trolls will always stay trolls. Do not feed them big macs. Its like saying look there is a cliff ahead of you, no you wont fall just keep going, it was debunked, you go and you fall, and you die. I advice you trigger keep your personal beliefs to your self anti or pro, you dont know how to communicate, you state your thoughts and you think you are right. Your not. your WRONG! period. Give us all a favor and stop pushing your happy vaccines on everyone. Take them your self. Leave the rest alone. Might as well join vaccine cult church. I do think you ae brainwashed by your groups which ever your in. you need to get out, they are lie to you strait to your face. I suggest and highly advice you do your own research before typing another false sentence. Start with youtube. I bet you dont even know the % of kids who died from vaccines and still do till this day, this will never be talked on your favorite channel CNN. Good luck with that. You need to dig, sometimes i think you dont know and sometimes i think you know but trolling, which one is it? Like i said i asvice you stop spreading telling people vaccines are good. They are not GOOD in any way.

SInce school i never had a flu shot and healthy like a fresh carrot. And all those around me who took it i still see some strugling from side effects, and yes, they were NORMAL!!! Some times i wonder if trigger continues this pro vaccine if admin can look into this situation, maybe ban him or something. I would hate to see someone get hurt by his advice, it is very toxic,. Jkray stated his honest opinion, you do offend people, do you not realize that? He know best what harmed him, and yet your trying to change his mind? Is that idiotic in itself? Your pro-vaxxer behavior is out of control.
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Oletimer wrote:If beath could communicate without being hostile, ,,idk,everyone else who has different viewpoints, don't agree,can communicate in a civil way,,beath gets hostile,every single thread, he makes it all about him and his feelings, ,I would say if you see a topic that is something you despise,,stay out of it,,, it's not aimed at you or about you,, the problem is you hate certain topics so much,,you don't want nobody talking about it,, the topic can be fine, those who agree and those who don't, most people can communicate without the hostility, ,but maybe your working on that,, :D
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brave777 wrote:trolls will always stay trolls. Do not feed them big macs. Its like saying look there is a cliff ahead of you, no you wont fall just keep going, it was debunked, you go and you fall, and you die. I advice you trigger keep your personal beliefs to your self anti or pro, you dont know how to communicate, you state your thoughts and you think you are right. Your not. your WRONG! period. Give us all a favor and stop pushing your happy vaccines on everyone. Take them your self. Leave the rest alone. Might as well join vaccine cult church. I do think you ae brainwashed by your groups which ever your in. you need to get out, they are lie to you strait to your face. I suggest and highly advice you do your own research before typing another false sentence. Start with youtube. I bet you dont even know the % of kids who died from vaccines and still do till this day, this will never be talked on your favorite channel CNN. Good luck with that. You need to dig, sometimes i think you dont know and sometimes i think you know but trolling, which one is it? Like i said i asvice you stop spreading telling people vaccines are good. They are not GOOD in any way.

SInce school i never had a flu shot and healthy like a fresh carrot. And all those around me who took it i still see some strugling from side effects, and yes, they were NORMAL!!! Some times i wonder if trigger continues this pro vaccine if admin can look into this situation, maybe ban him or something. I would hate to see someone get hurt by his advice, it is very toxic,. Jkray stated his honest opinion, you do offend people, do you not realize that? He know best what harmed him, and yet your trying to change his mind? Is that idiotic in itself? Your pro-vaxxer behavior is out of control.
Your passionate and illiterate rambling personal attack against me doesn’t contain a single shred of evidence you know what you are talking about. I don’t give a shit if you ever have a vaccine. You were likely vaccinated as a child, and I don’t care if anyone takes a flu shot. You could drink bleach for all I care. My issue is that people get sucked down this libertarian, conspiracy theorist, big government, Illuminati lizard people from space, putting chemtrails in your cornflakes rabbit hole, and then they spread disinformation to dummy mommies who then believe other dummies on a Facebook group and get too scared to give their child a vaccine.

I’ve studied virology and immunology, and have buried myself in scientific research over this topic. My wife worked as an educator for a pharmaceutical company that donates vaccines to impoverished villages in third world countries. She currently works for one of the largest pharmaceutical companies training doctors on medical devices. Neither of those companies make vaccines or make money from them. We aren’t stupid or ignorant on this topic.

We have both done our due diligence on this. I’ve looked at thousands of pages of case studies and research as well as the bulk of anti-vax material. I approached all of it with an open mind, and frankly, the anti-vax propaganda crumbles under its own circular logic and lack of any basis in actual science - only the most uneducated and gullible, easily duped or influenced would fall for it.

The saddest part is that most of the anti-vax stuff exists to peddle alternative medicine like essential oils or crystals or a book about drinking aged urine or turpentine or some other anti-science woo that ranges from useless to dangerous. It’s funny how these suckers who fall for it don’t trust big pharma, but they trust some jagoff selling homeopathy capsules telling them to avoid doctors. Funny side note is how these people are often “deregulate everything” “free market” libertarians, but don’t trust big pharma. Meanwhile they implicitly trust some unregulated supplement company (or Indonesian kratom supplier).

I suppose even sadder still is that it’s a lot of really poor people who can’t afford healthcare any more than they could afford an education in the first place. It’s why I advocate for single payer and free college. Maybe if people didn’t have to pay for vaccines, they wouldn’t be so suspicious and afraid of them (not that they are at all expensive - even without insurance). Maybe if they knew doctors typically lose money administering vaccines and that it’s one of the slimmest profit margin products for pharmaceutical companies. Fear is a big motivator for the spread of this disinformation propaganda. Fear and ignorance. Fear of big pharma - which is ostensibly Big Capitalism - that their goal is to harm everyone while chasing that green.

I can’t think of anything more cowardly than being a fully vaccinated childless adult who spends their time risking the lives of infants, cancer patients, and the immunocompromised by trying to convince uneducated moms to refuse the advice of their doctor and that vaccines cause autism which is worse than any disease a vaccine would prevent. I’ve tried seeing the good intentions (albeit misguided and misinformed) of these folks, but honestly, I stand by my statement that these people are just evil and disgusting.
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And if you don’t want me to “troll” - feel free to click on me and make me a “foe” or hide me so you don’t see my posts - also keep my name out of your f-ing mouth. I don’t troll. This is a public thread and I’m sharing my thoughts. Just because it doesn’t align with your worldview doesn’t make it a troll. I don’t appreciate transphobia or antivax propaganda any more than I would accept racism or any other sort of bigotry. I stand up for people who need defending. It’s the opposite of trolling. Take that antivax shit elsewhere if you don’t want to have your views challenged.
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Asperger’s just means you aren’t great at social interaction /// It means a whole lot more, depending on how high you are on the spectrum,,so LIES ---,I’ve studied virology and immunology, and have buried myself in scientific research over this topic------you have a lot of research to do, considering you have it too. Otherwise /// Trolls Lack of first-hand knowledge. People with the strongest opinions often have the least first-hand knowledge. When you encounter the certain and vociferous opinion of trolls, ask them if they have first-hand knowledge or experience. You’ll find that trolls just “know” that something is true.////Every internet troll has a different backstory and therefore different reasons for feeling the need to troll a community or an individual on the internet. They may feel depressed, attention-starved, angry, sad, jealous, narcissistic or some other emotion they may not be entirely conscious of that's influencing their online behavior.////This type of troll loves a good argument. They can take a great, thoroughly researched and fact-based piece of content, and come at it from all opposing discussion angles to challenge its message. They believe they're right, and everyone else is wrong., and they're always determined to have the last word –SOUND FAMILIAR ///You know this type of troll. They're the people who always have to tell other users that they have misspelled words and grammar mistakes. Even when they do it by simply commenting with the corrected word behind an asterisk symbol, it's pretty much never a welcomed comment to any discussion. Some of them even use a commenter's spelling and grammar mistakes as an excuse to insult them.,,SOUND FAMILIAR? ////When controversial topics are discussed online, they're bound to offend someone. That's normal. But then there are the types of trolls who can take a piece of content and turning them into an argument by playing the victim.////SOUND FAMILIAR ////oh yea, ,,Internet Trolls Are Narcissists, Psychopaths, and Sadists
Trolls will lie, exaggerate, and offend to get a response.////So what might be making men act horribly online? "People with narcissistic tendencies may behave in hostile ways as a response to comments they perceive are negative," Ferenczi explains. "They may also behave in hostile ways because they are prone to aggression and manipulative behavior. Underlying a hostile action might be the intent to re-establish power and self-esteem. Finally, some research indicates that narcissism is linked with a drive for negative social influence and power which may also explain in part the attraction of hostile attention."///

Research has shown that those who enjoy trolling also happen to have high levels of narcissism, sadism, psychopathy and Machiavellianism, known as the “Dark Tetrad of personality” (Buckels, Trapnell & Paulhus, 2014). This means that the same narcissists and psychopaths you encounter in real life could very well also be doling out their abuse behind the computer screen. ,We all have some degree of narcissist behavior, time to time,,,I know it well,,internet is a playgound for the full blown narcissist, ,,one of the most replies by a narcissist when confronted, they say YOUR PROJECTING, ,sound familiar, ,your a troll, you can't hide it, ,and in my 63 years,I've done enough psychological research, I recognize narcissist behavior,,so my diagnosis is an narcissist troll with asbergers,,you know that asbergers is a disorder with a lot more than social difficulties, ,your 32? Same age as my daughter, ,,did you ever ask your parents if they noticed a change after your mmr vaccine at 3,,,you like big pharma and their vaccines? They need to work on it,,if you break the vaccine into 2 or 3 spaced apart, instead of all at once, you aren't overdosing your child with 3 serious strong vaccines, ,like the shingles vaccine, at 60,,you get half, go back 2 months later for the rest,the system is screwed up,BTW, Girls with aspbergers may be more sensitive, ,and I was married to a narcissist internet troll,,, ,Why do you pick out your wife's kratomdoses, choose for her,,my ex spent so much time on the internet, ,he got more pleasure playing mind games,than enjoying his children,,kratom is your specialty, ,reviews are good usually, ,other than that, your off topics posts are trolling, atheists, ? And your buddy zoroastrians, ?? Trolling is your past time, ,,I'm just calling you out,,and I am done with you, you've wasted enough of my time,
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You’re a professional victim and you’re going to be one until you die. I didn’t read all that mess, but I skimmed enough to see it’s just a bunch more ignorant busy-body bile and vitriol tossed my way - like usual. :roll:

And I’ve seen your not-so-subtle accusations of me being a narcissist littered all over the forum. All I can say is that if you weren’t a victim, you wouldn’t have a personality trait at all. I’m real sick of you. I think you’re a terrible, ignorant, bigoted, vindictive person. And I’ve had about enough of your shit talk and personal attacks. Go kick rocks.
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Oletimer - Since i was thinking about this on vaccine subject, i recalled something while I was working on my job. Did not share it with any one but i will here. Its a personal story. This happened around 3rd or 4th grade. I remember i was lined up in school boys locker bathroom, and they were giving some shot into the shoulder, i am not saying its vaccine because i dont know what it was. They had a big candy bowl after you got a shot you get to pick which candy you want. There were people never seen in school that day, new faces. I know i didnt give an consent, and there was no information what it is or was. I thought it was a normal procedure. Crazy part even parents didn't know anything now that i think about it. Now all the way to 5th grade, i barley said a word, only thing i said was maybe, teacher can i go to bathroom. Was very anti-social. I think what helped me a lot trough the years is study lots self help material. I was assigned a person that always visited me to help me study. They visit me home to to help with homework up to an hour. All i know is i did a lot of secret copy cheating. I would write the answers on the wall or corner of rooms before my helper come home or spelling words in small letters on paper between my legs and pretend i am thinking scratching my head and copy everything. I remember i fked up once, my little paper with all the cheating on it fell on floor from between my legs and my helper looked at me like i was retarded because i couldn't answer one question. I had a very bad memory. It happened again and again, eventually he stopped helping me out. :lol: , Only thing what helped me a lot is doing self help material and study all subjects on my own. I of course regretted that i didnt learn anything in school but just cheat a lot because of my poor memory. Come to think i wonder if that shot affected me poorly? that i will never know unless i go do a regressive hypnosis or something. If i ever do one, i will for sure ask about what happened on the day they gave us boys secret shots and what it was. i don't think it is cool to do such things. I heard similar stories from others before, so to say there is no fishy stuff going on with big pharma is a big fat lie. They play with people's trust. something it should never be played with.
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I once had a fling with a scientist (he'd earned his doctorate in the psychiatry, though his base was in physics) who referred to me as "anti-speciest" when I wasn't aware that there were 13 or so different alien races/species in the galaxy. I had a lot to learn, so I asked if he could go into more detail. He handed me a copy of a non-fiction book regarding the topic and told me to start there, and then we'd discuss.

(Note: Said individual is brilliant and successful. Did and perhaps does--he relocated---comission work for the government, as well as "Googleable" academic work...all by under the age of 35. I think about him sometimes still! He was quite interesting.)
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Vaccines should be mandatory. If you share any views with the anti-vaxxer movement, please keep it to yourself. It's dangerous and downright dumb. Some of the same people here saying "follow the science" with kratom only use science when it suits their taste, and completely abandon it when it interferes with their personal beliefs (creationists I'm looking at you too)
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No right or wrong answer to this one. I vaccinated my daughter BEFORE the anti-vax movement. It's like abortion in that the wrong or right is up to the individual in question. Same with vaccines. The part this cartoon for kids leaves out is that while your body is making antibodies to fight the disease, it is COMMUNICABLE if airborne. I HAVE caught the flu from an ex in the middle of nowhere directly after a flu shot. It HAPPENED. So, make your own decisions whilst you still can. In another year whence you revisit this topic again, there may be NO CHOICE then. Relish the choice if nothing else. Peace to you all.
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beathappening wrote:Vaccines should be mandatory. If you share any views with the anti-vaxxer movement, please keep it to yourself. It's dangerous and downright dumb. Some of the same people here saying "follow the science" with kratom only use science when it suits their taste, and completely abandon it when it interferes with their personal beliefs (creationists I'm looking at you too)
I'm sorry, what was that about mandatory? I'll wait. Hahaha! I know he's banned, and reading through some of these old threads, the dots are connecting through time. I missed some of these. SCIENCE! Yeah, what of it? 50% of the answer on a GOOD day. Science is missing a few pages.
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