Botanical Bunny
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matt11
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Re: Botanical Bunny
anyone tried the most recent gold 12, its the 1907 batch.
is it just as good as the 1906 batch?
is it just as good as the 1906 batch?
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Re: Botanical Bunny
i have the most recent gold 12, but never tried the old batch so i can't really compare.
it seems good to me. more relaxing than euphoric, but have only tried it a couple of times and always in a different blend so.......
it seems good to me. more relaxing than euphoric, but have only tried it a couple of times and always in a different blend so.......
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Re: Botanical Bunny
All i need to know. went ahead and put an order in of the gold 12 & the PMD 12.
Ill report back with a quick review
Ill report back with a quick review
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Re: Botanical Bunny
I’ve got both and they are very similar. The new batch may be slightly slower and maybe a little more euphoric but it’s not a big difference IMO. The new batch looks a little bit darker to me as well.matt11 wrote:anyone tried the most recent gold 12, its the 1907 batch.
is it just as good as the 1906 batch?
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Re: Botanical Bunny
don't look now Angelica but..WhiteAngelica wrote:Oletimer wrote:... His last batch of Gold Bali blew my pants off. Stalking the site to see if more crop up. Highly recommended.
As I was browsing over this new VLNT, and others, had several 100g bags of Premium MD Lot 14 in my Shopping Cart. Within 5 minutes it all got grabbed up, I had to click Checkout before I was ready to checkout.. Literally people are jumping on this like a pack of piranhas - Sold Out within minutes except a few ounces, going so fast it'll be gone as I finish typing this.
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Re: Botanical Bunny
OMG! How does that new Gold Bali compare to the Gold 12? I already have a Gold Bali from the STH, probably not that different.BallzDeep9 wrote:don't look now Angelica but..WhiteAngelica wrote:Oletimer wrote:... His last batch of Gold Bali blew my pants off. Stalking the site to see if more crop up. Highly recommended.. New summer batch of, Gold Bali posted today, along with new Lot 13 VLNT shipment. Pure Green sounds interesting.. Green JongKong, White MD, Red Bali, all 1908.
As I was browsing over this new VLNT, and others, had several 100g bags of Premium MD Lot 14 in my Shopping Cart. Within 5 minutes it all got grabbed up, I had to click Checkout before I was ready to checkout.. Literally people are jumping on this like a pack of piranhas - Sold Out within minutes except a few ounces, going so fast it'll be gone as I finish typing this.
That GOLD 12 is super potent, euphoric and mellow. Never liked Red strains, but this is like the Red WITH the euphoria!
Anyone on the fence on GOLD 12 from BB's must purchase it now or eternally live in regret. I thought Gold Elephant was good, well this is even better. I am thinking of getting a full kilogram of just that. I am stunned by its efficacy. Been burning all day and it kicked my butt on the last burn of the day, after 12 full hours of hitting every strain that I have, I am now following the advice of the wise and using as many different strains from as many different vendors and farmers, as humanly possible. That seems to be the secret here, ROTATION and VARIETY!
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Re: Botanical Bunny
Well, his recent Gold 12 batches have been exceptional .. I'd be very surprised if this new Lot 13 stuff is quite that good ? VLNT is "solid", he's known for his Bentuangie, and most of his reds and yellows are Bent blends - For example this Red Bali, is a dark brick reddish color .. Totally and completely different from another vendor's greenish Red Bali, I mean this is Exhibit 1, proof positive that "strain names" mean nothing.. Batch and Supplier are everything!Theanine wrote:BallzDeep9 wrote:OMG! How does that new Gold Bali compare to the Gold 12? I already have a Gold Bali from the STH, probably not that different.
Still it's summer dry season, I'll give his Lot 13 VLNT a benefit of the doubt, for sure.. its Brand Name kratom! People who want slower reds and oxidized Bent-y leaf, for pain relief - usually Love this stuff !! I'm more of a greens guy, like you are.. I still buy some VLNT, really dig his Yellow Bent, it works very well as a blender. Adds a mellow, full body, long legs, feeling to any green or white.
Totally agree about that K.C. Gold 12 - I've stocked up, and even bought some more today.
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Theanine
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Re: Botanical Bunny
All good advice, as per usual. I am not a fan of ferments or even regular Reds. I prefer the Golds instead, they have a bit of that Green still in them. Kratom is like a good detective story, you can collect clues and names, but you would have to figure out a riddle to actually know what's happening!BallzDeep9 wrote:Well, his recent Gold 12 batches have been exceptional .. I'd be very surprised if this new Lot 13 stuff is quite that good ? VLNT is "solid", he's known for his Bentuangie, and most of his reds and yellows are Bent blends - For example this Red Bali, is a dark brick reddish color .. Totally and completely different from another vendor's greenish Red Bali, I mean this is Exhibit 1, proof positive that "strain names" mean nothing.. Batch and Supplier are everything!Theanine wrote:BallzDeep9 wrote:OMG! How does that new Gold Bali compare to the Gold 12? I already have a Gold Bali from the STH, probably not that different.I support vendors, like BB, who are honest & transparent about their Indo sources.
Still it's summer dry season, I'll give his Lot 13 VLNT a benefit of the doubt, for sure.. its Brand Name kratom! People who want slower reds and oxidized Bent-y leaf, for pain relief - usually Love this stuff !! I'm more of a greens guy, like you are.. I still buy some VLNT, really dig his Yellow Bent, it works very well as a blender. Adds a mellow, full body, long legs, feeling to any green or white.
Totally agree about that K.C. Gold 12 - I've stocked up, and even bought some more today.
I think there is just way too much good kratom around at this point to take risks on anything. All top vendors on here have a few fire strains each. That Gold 12 just straight blew my mind, the best slow strain I have ever had!
If anyone reading this is like meh, Gold 12 sounds lame, can't be good, not enough letters in the name, they should just go ahead and baker act themselves, because this stuff is fire. Previously, I had assumed that Gold Elephant was it when it comes to slow varieties, but this stuff got right on top of me to be sure. Again, as Ballz says, names mean very little. Another vendor would call that Gold 12 something like Super Gold Elephant or Premium Gold and it would immediately sell out as a result. BB's is just too honest, which is good, respect for his clients he has! This plain old name is keeping it down methinks! I think Ballz had mentioned that in previous posts. This Gold definitely changed my mind about slower strains in general, they CAN be euphoric after all, like in ways that Greens are.....
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Re: Botanical Bunny
Theanine wrote:
That GOLD 12 is super potent, euphoric and mellow. Never liked Red strains, but this is like the Red WITH the euphoria!
Anyone on the fence on GOLD 12 from BB's must purchase it now or eternally live in regret.
Dammit. click click yeah yeah 2-250s uh huh
There are 14 - 250s left in stock and 4 kilos. Bunch of 100s
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Re: Botanical Bunny
I agree with ballzdeep, (i always feel weird typing BallzDeep lol), that yellow bent was amazing, i bet the new summer yBent is even better. Something about sundried bents that are just better imo. I wasnt too much a fan of the Red Brick Bali from a couple months ago but i assume the summer is probably a bit better. I have been a VLNTherbstore.online fan for a while, I love the Chocolate Bent from last year, it was fy-ure lol.
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Re: Botanical Bunny
Even less now as I had to grab a 1/4 for my night time doses. I'm usually a green and white guy but after reading the hype I have to give this one a shot. I also got a 100g of the Pure Green 13 because that sounds interesting (as others have said). Will be sure to put up a review if it turns out to be something special.herbalhippie wrote:Theanine wrote:
There are 14 - 250s left in stock and 4 kilos. Bunch of 100s
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Wow, it's down to 5 - 250s now!Cock Bronson wrote:Even less now as I had to grab a 1/4 for my night time doses. I'm usually a green and white guy but after reading the hype I have to give this one a shot. I also got a 100g of the Pure Green 13 because that sounds interesting (as others have said). Will be sure to put up a review if it turns out to be something special.herbalhippie wrote:Theanine wrote:
There are 14 - 250s left in stock and 4 kilos. Bunch of 100s
Who sucked up all the Gold 12??
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Re: Botanical Bunny
Heh. I placed an order for 1x 100g of PMD lot 14. I believe it said only 6x 100g left. Probably OOS now.BallzDeep9 wrote:don't look now Angelica but..WhiteAngelica wrote:Oletimer wrote:... His last batch of Gold Bali blew my pants off. Stalking the site to see if more crop up. Highly recommended.. New summer batch of, Gold Bali posted today, along with new Lot 13 VLNT shipment. Pure Green sounds interesting.. Green JongKong, White MD, Red Bali, all 1908.
As I was browsing over this new VLNT, and others, had several 100g bags of Premium MD Lot 14 in my Shopping Cart. Within 5 minutes it all got grabbed up, I had to click Checkout before I was ready to checkout.. Literally people are jumping on this like a pack of piranhas - Sold Out within minutes except a few ounces, going so fast it'll be gone as I finish typing this.
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Re: Botanical Bunny
Not anymore!herbalhippie wrote:Theanine wrote:
That GOLD 12 is super potent, euphoric and mellow. Never liked Red strains, but this is like the Red WITH the euphoria!
Anyone on the fence on GOLD 12 from BB's must purchase it now or eternally live in regret.
Dammit. click click yeah yeah 2-250s uh huh![]()
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There are 14 - 250s left in stock and 4 kilos. Bunch of 100s
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Re: Botanical Bunny
I just placed an order of the Premium MD Lot 12. I'm hoping it's as good as the PMD everyone was raving about. Has anyone tried it?
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Re: Botanical Bunny
I really need to slow down. But I have gotten a lot of very nice leaf these last few months!Theanine wrote:Not anymore!herbalhippie wrote:Theanine wrote:
That GOLD 12 is super potent, euphoric and mellow. Never liked Red strains, but this is like the Red WITH the euphoria!
Anyone on the fence on GOLD 12 from BB's must purchase it now or eternally live in regret.
Dammit. click click yeah yeah 2-250s uh huh![]()
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There are 14 - 250s left in stock and 4 kilos. Bunch of 100sYou crack me up, HH!
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Re: Botanical Bunny
I was looking for a Red Bent recommendation but found this thread and grabbed a half of Gold 12 on Friday. If I’m lucky it will be here tomorrow but Tuesday is more likely.
It’s been a few weeks since I’ve bought anything new, not that I really needed it but you all made it impossible to resist.
It’s been a few weeks since I’ve bought anything new, not that I really needed it but you all made it impossible to resist.
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Re: Botanical Bunny
I’m trying to place an order with BB but their payment methods do not allow me to link my business debit card. I’ve paid Removed before. Is there anyone willing to send me an invoice on Removed for $24 so I can pay u and then u Removed me the same amount so that I can order through BB? I would appreciate it.
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Business debit card?
can't you just Removed them yourself?
can't you just Removed them yourself?
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My debit card is issued through my employer. Their bank is not supported with Removed so I’m unable to link my debit card. I’ve made payments via Removed invoice with another vendor but BB does not offer that method.KurtisCards wrote:Business debit card?
can't you just Removed them yourself?
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Re: Botanical Bunny
What have been the most consistently strong strains for you guys? I recently ordered some White MD jong Kong and it wasn't good. Maybe it's just tolerance, or the specific batch I got, but I felt nearly nothing from taking high doses. The batch also had a strange texture to it, grittier than normal. Anyone else try this strain?
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Re: Botanical Bunny
I haven’t tried any of BB’s whites simply because I have a ton of white vein already and I haven’t seen anyone here recommend them.KookyKratomKritter wrote:What have been the most consistently strong strains for you guys? I recently ordered some White MD jong Kong and it wasn't good. Maybe it's just tolerance, or the specific batch I got, but I felt nearly nothing from taking high doses. The batch also had a strange texture to it, grittier than normal. Anyone else try this strain?
I currently have PMD, Verde, Rojo Loco, Yellow Bent and they are all exceptional. I use the Verde at times when I would normally use a white, it’s pretty fast and euphoric.
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Re: Botanical Bunny
tieguanyin wrote:I haven’t tried any of BB’s whites simply because I have a ton of white vein already and I haven’t seen anyone here recommend them.KookyKratomKritter wrote:What have been the most consistently strong strains for you guys? I recently ordered some White MD jong Kong and it wasn't good. Maybe it's just tolerance, or the specific batch I got, but I felt nearly nothing from taking high doses. The batch also had a strange texture to it, grittier than normal. Anyone else try this strain?
I currently have PMD, Verde, Rojo Loco, Yellow Bent and they are all exceptional. I use the Verde at times when I would normally use a white, it’s pretty fast and euphoric.
I'm really enjoyed their white dayak as well as their super white.
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Khorbib
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Re: Botanical Bunny
Hey everyone
I've been lurking this forum since it was created but never made an account or posted, just made an account to post this. Last week I saw a lot of people raving about the Gold 12, PMD12 and PMD14. I made an order last week and just got it this morning. I was wondering if I got the same batches everyone was raving about?
Gold 12 (batch 1907)
Premium MD (Lot 14) (batch 1907)
Premium MD (lot 12) (batch 1908)
Either way I got some more kratom so I'm happy, about to try some out! Thanks
I've been lurking this forum since it was created but never made an account or posted, just made an account to post this. Last week I saw a lot of people raving about the Gold 12, PMD12 and PMD14. I made an order last week and just got it this morning. I was wondering if I got the same batches everyone was raving about?
Gold 12 (batch 1907)
Premium MD (Lot 14) (batch 1907)
Premium MD (lot 12) (batch 1908)
Either way I got some more kratom so I'm happy, about to try some out! Thanks
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Re: Botanical Bunny
Hi, I'm really glad you joined up!Khorbib wrote:Hey everyone
I've been lurking this forum since it was created but never made an account or posted, just made an account to post this. Last week I saw a lot of people raving about the Gold 12, PMD12 and PMD14. I made an order last week and just got it this morning. I was wondering if I got the same batches everyone was raving about?
Gold 12 (batch 1907)
Premium MD (Lot 14) (batch 1907)
Premium MD (lot 12) (batch 1908)
Either way I got some more kratom so I'm happy, about to try some out! Thanks
I don't know about the PMD lot 12 but the other two are what everyone's been raving about.
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Re: Botanical Bunny
That PMD12 is da bomb!herbalhippie wrote:Hi, I'm really glad you joined up?Khorbib wrote:Hey everyone
I've been lurking this forum since it was created but never made an account or posted, just made an account to post this. Last week I saw a lot of people raving about the Gold 12, PMD12 and PMD14. I made an order last week and just got it this morning. I was wondering if I got the same batches everyone was raving about?
Gold 12 (batch 1907)
Premium MD (Lot 14) (batch 1907)
Premium MD (lot 12) (batch 1908)
Either way I got some more kratom so I'm happy, about to try some out! Thanks
I don't know about the PMD lot 12 but the other two are what everyone's been raving about.
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Khorbib
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Re: Botanical Bunny
Great to hear!herbalhippie wrote:Hi, I'm really glad you joined up!Khorbib wrote:Hey everyone
I've been lurking this forum since it was created but never made an account or posted, just made an account to post this. Last week I saw a lot of people raving about the Gold 12, PMD12 and PMD14. I made an order last week and just got it this morning. I was wondering if I got the same batches everyone was raving about?
Gold 12 (batch 1907)
Premium MD (Lot 14) (batch 1907)
Premium MD (lot 12) (batch 1908)
Either way I got some more kratom so I'm happy, about to try some out! Thanks
I don't know about the PMD lot 12 but the other two are what everyone's been raving about.
Btw I'm the one that traded you 250g of RVA Gold Bali for 250g RVA Green Hulu waaaaay back in like Sept 2017 when Reddit was still good, lol.
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I remember!! That Green Hulu was so freaking strong and gave me anxiety so bad. I hope you liked it!Khorbib wrote:Great to hear!herbalhippie wrote:Hi, I'm really glad you joined up!Khorbib wrote:Hey everyone
I've been lurking this forum since it was created but never made an account or posted, just made an account to post this. Last week I saw a lot of people raving about the Gold 12, PMD12 and PMD14. I made an order last week and just got it this morning. I was wondering if I got the same batches everyone was raving about?
Gold 12 (batch 1907)
Premium MD (Lot 14) (batch 1907)
Premium MD (lot 12) (batch 1908)
Either way I got some more kratom so I'm happy, about to try some out! Thanks
I don't know about the PMD lot 12 but the other two are what everyone's been raving about.
Btw I'm the one that traded you 250g of RVA Gold Bali for 250g RVA Green Hulu waaaaay back in like Sept 2017 when Reddit was still good, lol.
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Khorbib
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Re: Botanical Bunny
Really excited to hear that! There were only 250s available for the PMDs or else I would've got more! Had to snag a kilo of that gold!Theanine wrote:That PMD12 is da bomb!herbalhippie wrote:Hi, I'm really glad you joined up?Khorbib wrote:Hey everyone
I've been lurking this forum since it was created but never made an account or posted, just made an account to post this. Last week I saw a lot of people raving about the Gold 12, PMD12 and PMD14. I made an order last week and just got it this morning. I was wondering if I got the same batches everyone was raving about?
Gold 12 (batch 1907)
Premium MD (Lot 14) (batch 1907)
Premium MD (lot 12) (batch 1908)
Either way I got some more kratom so I'm happy, about to try some out! Thanks
I don't know about the PMD lot 12 but the other two are what everyone's been raving about.
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Re: Botanical Bunny
The new Gold Bali is excellent!!BallzDeep9 wrote:don't look now Angelica but..WhiteAngelica wrote:Oletimer wrote:... His last batch of Gold Bali blew my pants off. Stalking the site to see if more crop up. Highly recommended.. New summer batch of, Gold Bali posted today, along with new Lot 13 VLNT shipment. Pure Green sounds interesting.. Green JongKong, White MD, Red Bali, all 1908.
As I was browsing over this new VLNT, and others, had several 100g bags of Premium MD Lot 14 in my Shopping Cart. Within 5 minutes it all got grabbed up, I had to click Checkout before I was ready to checkout.. Literally people are jumping on this like a pack of piranhas - Sold Out within minutes except a few ounces, going so fast it'll be gone as I finish typing this.
I’m gonna need a bigger bag.
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Re: Botanical Bunny
Just picked up the gold bali and lot 13 jong kong, will report back with my thoughts next week when it gets here.