I'm struggling with deciding if I want to order a 100g bag of the jade balitophat wrote:Anyone try the 30year Wild Super Green, Jade Bali or Super Green Bali? Im trying to decide what to order? I usually like Greens or Reds that provide a calm, relaxing energy with euphoria without the sleepiness...
TFH Review (What to Order if You're Struggling to Decide!)
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Slayro, WELL DONE and thank you!
This is very thought out and plentiful for some TFH Reviewing, great work.
It shows you took the time to really express what these Strains/ Batches are like and why you like them. Should be very helpful for the community.
Pain is a huge burden and if people can find relief with TFH and these Batches than that’s more than great!!
I still have LOTs to try myself.
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This is very thought out and plentiful for some TFH Reviewing, great work.
It shows you took the time to really express what these Strains/ Batches are like and why you like them. Should be very helpful for the community.
Pain is a huge burden and if people can find relief with TFH and these Batches than that’s more than great!!
I still have LOTs to try myself.
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Re: TFH Review (What to Order if You're Struggling to Decide
Do it. Don't let the higher price for the 100g bag deter you. For me Jade Bali was the highlight of the six samples I tested.Marcussk wrote:I'm struggling with deciding if I want to order a 100g bag of the jade balitophat wrote:Anyone try the 30year Wild Super Green, Jade Bali or Super Green Bali? Im trying to decide what to order? I usually like Greens or Reds that provide a calm, relaxing energy with euphoria without the sleepiness...
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Well you talked me into itpsychonaut wrote: Do it. Don't let the higher price for the 100g bag deter you. For me Jade Bali was the highlight of the six samples I tested.
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These are all super but I'll try to explain the differences.tophat wrote:Anyone try the 30year Wild Super Green, Jade Bali or Super Green Bali? Im trying to decide what to order? I usually like Greens or Reds that provide a calm, relaxing energy with euphoria without the sleepiness...
30 Year Wild Super Green : the first one I got with a vintage lot. Really fast. It even speeds up your thoughts until you get used to it. I love it if I have a lot to do or I have to move quickly.
Jade Bali : euphoric and nice it kind of turns red in effects after the initial peak of effects. Starts fast, ends slow. Reminiscent of Malaysian Jambu which is my all-time favorite strain.
Super Green Bali : similar to the Jade Bali in the green -----> red only it's a tad stronger. This sounds crazy, but I actually enjoy the taste of this strain. I went through 250 already from the last open house and got another one this time. Can't lose with any of them. Might I reccomend mixing the 30 year Wild SG with either of the other two?
All of them I'd highly reccomend.
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Thanks so much for your informative post! I'm off to order a few of your suggestions 
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I'll put in a word for the wild green Hulu kapuas. Very euphoric mid. Reminds me of the green Malays from years ago.
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And while we're talking about hidden gems, I'll put a word in for the Wild Kali SG! Classic green and after the initial couple of burns that seemed to do very little, I took it the third time and it's been an all-time favorite ever since. I got a second 250 it was so good!
Hey Chris, I need to ask you a question. PM incoming.
Hey Chris, I need to ask you a question. PM incoming.
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Here is my review of the TFH kratom I got during their recent open invite.
If you don't want to read the whole thing the synopsis is that TFH has very good Kratom and it was well worth what I paid.
Hands down the 30 Year Wild Super Green IR3/IR4 was the best of all of them.
I ordered the following 4 way split.
Deep Jungle Maeng Da WM13
30 Year Wild Super Green IR3/IR4
Wild Green Sumpur M5-KIN
Wild Green Hulu Kapuas IR25
On 3/16/20 I received the TFH order. And also got free 10g samples of:
Wild crafted heavy red A6
30yr wild white TFH IR12
Wild crafted white TFH A6M16
Wild harvest Yellow MD MUK2
I tested all the same way as I test any new kratom that I have never tried.
I take 500mg as the first dose of the day on an empty stomach. I take it dry to determine the taste and if it has grit in it. Then I wash it down with a glass of water.
I wait until I feel the affects and then log what they are as they progress. I then wait until I feel it wearing off as indicated by returning pain, and/or lack of clarity/focus, and or getting tired.
Then I take the 2nd dose at 1g, if I wasn't overwhelmed or made unconscious by the first dose. lol
The 2nd day of the review process I start at the 1g dose again. This time mixed directly with the warm water and not taken dry.
My normal dose, for kratom that works for me, is between 1-2g so I usually do not take any more than that and actually have not seen a time where I needed to.
Wild crafted heavy red A6
Very fine powder with no grit. Taste is of a normal red batch kratom bitterness but slightly salty for some reason.
500mg to 1g was very good for pain and sleep. I only try Red batches in the evening in case it is very sedating. I could not stay awake after an hour of taking this batch each time.
30yr wild white TFH IR12
Very fine powder with no grit. Not as bitter as the red A6.
500mg to 1g dose gave no headache relief. Some clarity, energy, and pain relief at those doses with only a little spaciness. But not as much as many whites cause me to have.
Could feel it wearing off at the 4hr mark.
Wild crafted white TFH A6M16
Very fine powder with no grit. Tastes the same as the IR12.
500mg to 1g dose gave some pain relief and calming. No energy boost but a little bit of clarity. 3-3.5hr before wearing off.
Wild harvest Yellow MD MUK2
Very fine powder with no grit and almost no bitterness but also was slightly salty.
500mg to 1g dose gave a slow ramp (1.5hr) to pain relief, some clarity, and then calming before it progressed to making me tired. No headache relief. 3-3.5hr before wearing off
Seems like it would be good for winding down after a rough day.
30yr wild yellow TFH IR35
Very fine powder with no grit and almost no bitterness. Not salty.
500mg to 1g dose gave decent pain relief and a bit of clarity also.
Caused me to feel very tired when it wears off at around 3.5-4hrs.
I mixed what was left all 4 of the white/yellow samples and they have made an excellent afternoon/evening wind down, pain relief, and anxiety killer blend.
¼ split kilo
Deep Jungle Maeng Da WM13
This should be named slow poke green MD.
Took close to 3 hrs to start working with a 500mg or 1g dose. Longest of any of the other 30+ kratom batches I have tried from other vendors over the past year.
Very fine powder but it does have grit in it.
It also has a lot more of a leafy or vegetable taste than any other kratom I've tried. Including the yellow/white samples. It's not bad and it's not like a bent. It's just different. I liked it.
When it does start working it has excellent clarity, good energy, good pain relief, and "headache relief"! The Legs is only about 3-3.5hrs after you feel it start to work. So this might be good to mix with a faster green to get an extended time between doses. If that kind of thing is possible. I'll try that when I get the time.
30 Year Wild Super Green IR3/IR4
Very fine powder with no grit. Normal kratom taste, smell, and bitterness.
500mg to 1g dose gave excellent pain relief, good clarity and focus but with a little spaciness, and it started to work in about 1hr which is mostly normal for me.
It also removed a level 5 headache within that hour. That is a biggie for me due to chronic headaches!
This one lasted an unbelievable 7-8hrs! This is my absolute favorite batch of these 9 I tried. I wouldn't mind having a kilo or 2 for my Z.A.P.S(zombie apocalypse preppers stash).
Wild Green Sumpur M5-KIN
Very fine powder with no grit. Normal kratom taste, smell, and bitterness.
500mg to 1g dose gave some pain relief and good clarity. No headache relief.
Legs is about 3-3.5hrs
Wild Green Hulu Kapuas IR25
Very fine powder with no grit. Normal kratom taste, smell, and bitterness.
500mg to 1g dose gave good pain relief, and good clarity. Also removed headache.
This one also had good legs coming in at about 6hrs. This is my second favorite.
All in all TFH is a must try if you never have before.
Here's a little about myself for anyone who might be curious.
I am a father of 2, grandfather of 4, and soon to be 64 years old.
March 2020 marks my 1 year anniversary of taking kratom.
I actually found kratom in March of 2019 while looking for a natural pain killer for my wife who was suffering sever pain and numbness from a tumor on her spinal cord, which the doctors didn't find for nearly 2 years. Kratom barely touched her pain but it helped her sleep.
I tried the kratom and it ended up being the fix for my chronic headaches. Nothing I was given by my neurologist, in the 2 years of my suffering with the headaches, came close to working consistently. Kratom (especially Green Riau) knocks the headaches out 95% of the time. It is truly a miracle plant.
March 2020 also marks my 12 year anniversary of being sober from an addiction to alcohol and pain killers. Thank you Celebrate Recovery!
I became an addict after multiple spine surgeries. C5-C7 fused and L5-S1 fused. My most recent MRI shows T7-T10 bulging. Also chronic leg pain for 50 years due to what the doctors think is some type of bone disease. And arthritis in both hands and hips now for the past 5 years or so.
Kratom is my only pain killer now. It helps dramatically reduce my pains.
When I review kratom I will never speak of euphoria or getting a buzz or getting high.
For me personally euphoria leads to wanting to get high. My addiction makes me unable to allow myself to get euphoric or even mellow. One thing invariably leads to another and I might end up starting my road back to the insanity of addiction.
That's why I was very tentative when I first started using kratom in March 2019. My wife also monitors me to make sure that I do not exhibit any of the indicators that she has seen for when I am starting down that path.
It has been 12 years since I was there but I think I am always 1 glass of wine or 1 pain pill away from it.
Before knowing about kratom I had a surgery and I refused to take any pain meds after it. I suffered through the pain because of my fear of losing myself back to chasing the dragon.
Because of my addiction I can't understand how anybody can get a little high and not want more of it. And for it to last forever. Why would anyone want to give that up? Such are the thoughts of this addict and unfortunately many more that I work with now in Celebrate Recovery.
If you don't want to read the whole thing the synopsis is that TFH has very good Kratom and it was well worth what I paid.
Hands down the 30 Year Wild Super Green IR3/IR4 was the best of all of them.
I ordered the following 4 way split.
Deep Jungle Maeng Da WM13
30 Year Wild Super Green IR3/IR4
Wild Green Sumpur M5-KIN
Wild Green Hulu Kapuas IR25
On 3/16/20 I received the TFH order. And also got free 10g samples of:
Wild crafted heavy red A6
30yr wild white TFH IR12
Wild crafted white TFH A6M16
Wild harvest Yellow MD MUK2
I tested all the same way as I test any new kratom that I have never tried.
I take 500mg as the first dose of the day on an empty stomach. I take it dry to determine the taste and if it has grit in it. Then I wash it down with a glass of water.
I wait until I feel the affects and then log what they are as they progress. I then wait until I feel it wearing off as indicated by returning pain, and/or lack of clarity/focus, and or getting tired.
Then I take the 2nd dose at 1g, if I wasn't overwhelmed or made unconscious by the first dose. lol
The 2nd day of the review process I start at the 1g dose again. This time mixed directly with the warm water and not taken dry.
My normal dose, for kratom that works for me, is between 1-2g so I usually do not take any more than that and actually have not seen a time where I needed to.
Wild crafted heavy red A6
Very fine powder with no grit. Taste is of a normal red batch kratom bitterness but slightly salty for some reason.
500mg to 1g was very good for pain and sleep. I only try Red batches in the evening in case it is very sedating. I could not stay awake after an hour of taking this batch each time.
30yr wild white TFH IR12
Very fine powder with no grit. Not as bitter as the red A6.
500mg to 1g dose gave no headache relief. Some clarity, energy, and pain relief at those doses with only a little spaciness. But not as much as many whites cause me to have.
Could feel it wearing off at the 4hr mark.
Wild crafted white TFH A6M16
Very fine powder with no grit. Tastes the same as the IR12.
500mg to 1g dose gave some pain relief and calming. No energy boost but a little bit of clarity. 3-3.5hr before wearing off.
Wild harvest Yellow MD MUK2
Very fine powder with no grit and almost no bitterness but also was slightly salty.
500mg to 1g dose gave a slow ramp (1.5hr) to pain relief, some clarity, and then calming before it progressed to making me tired. No headache relief. 3-3.5hr before wearing off
Seems like it would be good for winding down after a rough day.
30yr wild yellow TFH IR35
Very fine powder with no grit and almost no bitterness. Not salty.
500mg to 1g dose gave decent pain relief and a bit of clarity also.
Caused me to feel very tired when it wears off at around 3.5-4hrs.
I mixed what was left all 4 of the white/yellow samples and they have made an excellent afternoon/evening wind down, pain relief, and anxiety killer blend.
¼ split kilo
Deep Jungle Maeng Da WM13
This should be named slow poke green MD.
Very fine powder but it does have grit in it.
It also has a lot more of a leafy or vegetable taste than any other kratom I've tried. Including the yellow/white samples. It's not bad and it's not like a bent. It's just different. I liked it.
When it does start working it has excellent clarity, good energy, good pain relief, and "headache relief"! The Legs is only about 3-3.5hrs after you feel it start to work. So this might be good to mix with a faster green to get an extended time between doses. If that kind of thing is possible. I'll try that when I get the time.
30 Year Wild Super Green IR3/IR4
Very fine powder with no grit. Normal kratom taste, smell, and bitterness.
500mg to 1g dose gave excellent pain relief, good clarity and focus but with a little spaciness, and it started to work in about 1hr which is mostly normal for me.
It also removed a level 5 headache within that hour. That is a biggie for me due to chronic headaches!
This one lasted an unbelievable 7-8hrs! This is my absolute favorite batch of these 9 I tried. I wouldn't mind having a kilo or 2 for my Z.A.P.S(zombie apocalypse preppers stash).
Wild Green Sumpur M5-KIN
Very fine powder with no grit. Normal kratom taste, smell, and bitterness.
500mg to 1g dose gave some pain relief and good clarity. No headache relief.
Legs is about 3-3.5hrs
Wild Green Hulu Kapuas IR25
Very fine powder with no grit. Normal kratom taste, smell, and bitterness.
500mg to 1g dose gave good pain relief, and good clarity. Also removed headache.
This one also had good legs coming in at about 6hrs. This is my second favorite.
All in all TFH is a must try if you never have before.
Here's a little about myself for anyone who might be curious.
I am a father of 2, grandfather of 4, and soon to be 64 years old.
March 2020 marks my 1 year anniversary of taking kratom.
I actually found kratom in March of 2019 while looking for a natural pain killer for my wife who was suffering sever pain and numbness from a tumor on her spinal cord, which the doctors didn't find for nearly 2 years. Kratom barely touched her pain but it helped her sleep.
I tried the kratom and it ended up being the fix for my chronic headaches. Nothing I was given by my neurologist, in the 2 years of my suffering with the headaches, came close to working consistently. Kratom (especially Green Riau) knocks the headaches out 95% of the time. It is truly a miracle plant.
March 2020 also marks my 12 year anniversary of being sober from an addiction to alcohol and pain killers. Thank you Celebrate Recovery!
I became an addict after multiple spine surgeries. C5-C7 fused and L5-S1 fused. My most recent MRI shows T7-T10 bulging. Also chronic leg pain for 50 years due to what the doctors think is some type of bone disease. And arthritis in both hands and hips now for the past 5 years or so.
Kratom is my only pain killer now. It helps dramatically reduce my pains.
When I review kratom I will never speak of euphoria or getting a buzz or getting high.
For me personally euphoria leads to wanting to get high. My addiction makes me unable to allow myself to get euphoric or even mellow. One thing invariably leads to another and I might end up starting my road back to the insanity of addiction.
That's why I was very tentative when I first started using kratom in March 2019. My wife also monitors me to make sure that I do not exhibit any of the indicators that she has seen for when I am starting down that path.
It has been 12 years since I was there but I think I am always 1 glass of wine or 1 pain pill away from it.
Before knowing about kratom I had a surgery and I refused to take any pain meds after it. I suffered through the pain because of my fear of losing myself back to chasing the dragon.
Because of my addiction I can't understand how anybody can get a little high and not want more of it. And for it to last forever. Why would anyone want to give that up? Such are the thoughts of this addict and unfortunately many more that I work with now in Celebrate Recovery.
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Great review brother! .500mgs.-1 gram a day!?! I applaud your restraint! Congratulations on your year of kratom use! 
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Re: TFH Review (What to Order if You're Struggling to Decide
Has anyone tried the Wild Green Borneo ? I know that it’ll be great just wondering what to expect. The only 2 greens that I ordered were that and the Slow Green
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Re: TFH Review (What to Order if You're Struggling to Decide
Those are both on the slower side... 30yr wild slow green coarse is possible my most favorite euphoric slow green ever!! And wild harvest green Borneo is a slow to mid slow green as well with great mood boost, fast onset, good pain control, and wonderful warm cozy feeling!!!MycatTimmy wrote:Has anyone tried the Wild Green Borneo ? I know that it’ll be great just wondering what to expect. The only 2 greens that I ordered were that and the Slow Green
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Thanks Ace. Now my only problem is deciding which one to try first lol !
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Re: TFH Review (What to Order if You're Struggling to Decide
Green Borneo was really nice mid slow green it hit very well
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Re: TFH Review (What to Order if You're Struggling to Decide
Thank you for the info. I am making an order next week. A large order and now I am going to break it up and try several new things in it!
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Re: TFH Review (What to Order if You're Struggling to Decide
The event ended on March 31st. But there is supposed to be a new event soon.Saramoon8868 wrote:Thank you for the info. I am making an order next week. A large order and now I am going to break it up and try several new things in it!
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Re: TFH Review (What to Order if You're Struggling to Decide
Very thorough review, thank you!Tiggermanscrat wrote:Here is my review of the TFH kratom I got during their recent open invite.
If you don't want to read the whole thing the synopsis is that TFH has very good Kratom and it was well worth what I paid.![]()
Hands down the 30 Year Wild Super Green IR3/IR4 was the best of all of them.
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Re: TFH Review (What to Order if You're Struggling to Decide
Hey Slayro long time no talk
Miss the discord days. I recently ordered 5 kilo and am happy with every single strain. With alot of them being very exceptional. Amazing quality and my favorite vender. Really need to get around to making a review as well. Excellent job with yours. Ty for the review it helps a lot when buying without experiencing first.
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Re: TFH Review (What to Order if You're Struggling to Decide
That's really interesting in terms of body chem and individual differences. For me, the Yellow Samarinda is almost like a smooth white (at a dose of a little over 2g). Really good energy that lasts at least a couple of hours and then gets a little relaxing but not at all sedating for me!MikeEdoessomething wrote:I found Yellow Samarinda to be quite sedating. Forty-five minutes after taking it, I was fighting to stay awake. It's got some nice mood enhancement to it but it was so slow that I've had to restrict its use to late evenings. It is a terrific sleeping aid, I'll say that for it. This would be great for people who have problems sleeping. It's potent, too; I only took 0.5g and it was lights out! This may just be me, though. I've noticed that a lot of greens and yellows that people report as being moderately energetic slow me down, instead.Quercus wrote:Curious if anyone tested or reviewed the Yellow Samarinda yet?MikeEdoessomething wrote:
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Red vietnam is a smooth midrange that leans relaxing with some good anxiety reduction. Recommend.
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Re: TFH Review (What to Order if You're Struggling to Decide
Curious if anyone tested or reviewed the Yellow Samarinda yet?[/quote]
I found Yellow Samarinda to be quite sedating. Forty-five minutes after taking it, I was fighting to stay awake. It's got some nice mood enhancement to it but it was so slow that I've had to restrict its use to late evenings. It is a terrific sleeping aid, I'll say that for it. This would be great for people who have problems sleeping. It's potent, too; I only took 0.5g and it was lights out! This may just be me, though. I've noticed that a lot of greens and yellows that people report as being moderately energetic slow me down, instead.[/quote]
That's really interesting in terms of body chem and individual differences. For me, the Yellow Samarinda is almost like a smooth white (at a dose of a little over 2g). Really good energy that lasts at least a couple of hours and then gets a little relaxing but not at all sedating for me![/quote]
I had the same experience. Good energy, almost no sedation. Also had good pain relief. Great strain!
I found Yellow Samarinda to be quite sedating. Forty-five minutes after taking it, I was fighting to stay awake. It's got some nice mood enhancement to it but it was so slow that I've had to restrict its use to late evenings. It is a terrific sleeping aid, I'll say that for it. This would be great for people who have problems sleeping. It's potent, too; I only took 0.5g and it was lights out! This may just be me, though. I've noticed that a lot of greens and yellows that people report as being moderately energetic slow me down, instead.[/quote]
That's really interesting in terms of body chem and individual differences. For me, the Yellow Samarinda is almost like a smooth white (at a dose of a little over 2g). Really good energy that lasts at least a couple of hours and then gets a little relaxing but not at all sedating for me![/quote]
I had the same experience. Good energy, almost no sedation. Also had good pain relief. Great strain!
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Re: TFH Review (What to Order if You're Struggling to Decide
I am intrigued by the following:
Wild Red Vietnam: CA-8
Sun Dried Relaxing Red: BA1-3
Red Aceh: KG24
Does anyone have feed back on any of these strains? Thank you!
Wild Red Vietnam: CA-8
Sun Dried Relaxing Red: BA1-3
Red Aceh: KG24
Does anyone have feed back on any of these strains? Thank you!
The Red Queen
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Re: TFH Review (What to Order if You're Struggling to Decide
Wild white Vietnam is pretty fire. My fav from them from what I’ve tried
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Re: TFH Review (What to Order if You're Struggling to Decide
Hello all , can anyone suggest a strain from TFH that is similar to red bali? I haven't tried many but that is my favorite as it helps a lot with my pain / anxiety. thanks
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they just added a red bali reserve to their menu today i see. great timing lolrandybobandy wrote:Hello all , can anyone suggest a strain from TFH that is similar to red bali? I haven't tried many but that is my favorite as it helps a lot with my pain / anxiety. thanks