If you like mood lift you need to try this
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Spencemastaflex
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If you like mood lift you need to try this
Botanical Bunny's Green Jong Kong 12...... 9/10!
The only reason I'm not giving this a 10/10 is because something would need to absolutely out of this world to make me give it at 10 but for most people this would probably be a 10.
It kicks in so fast and has some serious legs. It gives great energy with a fantastic mood lift. I've tried this multiple times now with the same results. I absolutely love botanical bunny. Some of their stuff doesn't work for me but I feel like I have this "team" of kratom from them that is just fantastic. The mood lift on this is so good it just makes you so happy! Please try this strain if you haven't I highly recommend!!
The only reason I'm not giving this a 10/10 is because something would need to absolutely out of this world to make me give it at 10 but for most people this would probably be a 10.
It kicks in so fast and has some serious legs. It gives great energy with a fantastic mood lift. I've tried this multiple times now with the same results. I absolutely love botanical bunny. Some of their stuff doesn't work for me but I feel like I have this "team" of kratom from them that is just fantastic. The mood lift on this is so good it just makes you so happy! Please try this strain if you haven't I highly recommend!!
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Re: If you like mood lift you need to try this
I usually wait for there lot 13 but this does sound interesting
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Re: If you like mood lift you need to try this
All I see is lot 12 and lot 14, when has there been a 13?
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Re: If you like mood lift you need to try this
usually pops up around November every year, best kratom i have ever had besides a good pmd2 that rva used to have.
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Re: If you like mood lift you need to try this
Which batch number? They have two
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Re: If you like mood lift you need to try this
I can look later but in the name it says specifically "green jongkong 12"Jean des Esseintes wrote:Which batch number? They have two
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Re: If you like mood lift you need to try this
Botanical bunny lists their strains like this lot##-batch####. Example being PMD lot 12-2001 and PMD lot14-2002. The first 2 digits represent the supplier, 12 13. And 14 are all different suppliers. The last four digits are when botanical bunny recieved the batch in a yymm format, so 2001 would be January 2020 and something like 1811 would be November 2018. Hope that helps you guys.
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Spencemastaflex
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Re: If you like mood lift you need to try this
Green jongkong 12 (lot 12 - batch 2003) SKU# 100-CC12-greenjk
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Re: If you like mood lift you need to try this
I am curious as to why the latest batch of PMD 12 has a batch code of 1811. That was well over a year ago according to the method explained. Anyone try it yet? Rainy day batch or something? Perhaps there is a new batch numbering system?Marcussk wrote:Botanical bunny lists their strains like this lot##-batch####. Example being PMD lot 12-2001 and PMD lot14-2002. The first 2 digits represent the supplier, 12 13. And 14 are all different suppliers. The last four digits are when botanical bunny recieved the batch in a yymm format, so 2001 would be January 2020 and something like 1811 would be November 2018. Hope that helps you guys.
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Re: If you like mood lift you need to try this
Botanical bunny is on here, you can probably pm him and ask him.guitartodd77 wrote:I am curious as to why the latest batch of PMD 12 has a batch code of 1811. That was well over a year ago according to the method explained. Anyone try it yet? Rainy day batch or something? Perhaps there is a new batch numbering system?Marcussk wrote:Botanical bunny lists their strains like this lot##-batch####. Example being PMD lot 12-2001 and PMD lot14-2002. The first 2 digits represent the supplier, 12 13. And 14 are all different suppliers. The last four digits are when botanical bunny recieved the batch in a yymm format, so 2001 would be January 2020 and something like 1811 would be November 2018. Hope that helps you guys.
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Re: If you like mood lift you need to try this
I was frustrated when I visited their site. I did not see an option for buying a kilo; just the option to buy 250g FOUR TIMES. I think that worked out to $120.00 per kilo (not including shipping). I'm probably mistaken but, if not, those prices are way too high for me (and I have gotten some extraordinary leaf for well under $100).
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Re: If you like mood lift you need to try this
I think you just type in kilo4 in the coupon area and it splits it for you. They prebag all their stuff I think and we're probably out of that particular strains kilo bagsGreyfeather wrote:I was frustrated when I visited their site. I did not see an option for buying a kilo; just the option to buy 250g FOUR TIMES. I think that worked out to $120.00 per kilo (not including shipping). I'm probably mistaken but, if not, those prices are way too high for me (and I have gotten some extraordinary leaf for well under $100).
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Marcussk
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Re: If you like mood lift you need to try this
You got to put in the code 4WAY or its FOURWAY one. And REDDIT20.Greyfeather wrote:I was frustrated when I visited their site. I did not see an option for buying a kilo; just the option to buy 250g FOUR TIMES. I think that worked out to $120.00 per kilo (not including shipping). I'm probably mistaken but, if not, those prices are way too high for me (and I have gotten some extraordinary leaf for well under $100).
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Re: If you like mood lift you need to try this
Thanks M. But why do I "have to," I'm wondering. This kind of arrangement reminds me of the Re-leaf Guy who makes customers jump through a dozen hoops and sign up for customer loyalty, etc. before you can buy his leaf (with your shirt still intact).Marcussk wrote:You got to put in the code 4WAY or its FOURWAY one. And REDDIT20.Greyfeather wrote:I was frustrated when I visited their site. I did not see an option for buying a kilo; just the option to buy 250g FOUR TIMES. I think that worked out to $120.00 per kilo (not including shipping). I'm probably mistaken but, if not, those prices are way too high for me (and I have gotten some extraordinary leaf for well under $100).
I have always been very impressed with BB reviews, but if I can't see a current price stated clearly at the get-go I'll look to other vendors who are more transparent.
BB's competitors don't seem to have a problem listing 500g or 1000g prices. I would say that it's kind of baffling if it didn't simply look like a scheme.
And if I'm going to be piled-on because I posted this (or if it is judged as not keeping with forum policy) I would rather it be deleted.
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Re: If you like mood lift you need to try this
Hey Greyfeather,Greyfeather wrote:Thanks M. But why do I "have to," I'm wondering. This kind of arrangement reminds me of the Re-leaf Guy who makes customers jump through a dozen hoops and sign up for customer loyalty, etc. before you can buy his leaf (with your shirt still intact).Marcussk wrote:You got to put in the code 4WAY or its FOURWAY one. And REDDIT20.Greyfeather wrote:I was frustrated when I visited their site. I did not see an option for buying a kilo; just the option to buy 250g FOUR TIMES. I think that worked out to $120.00 per kilo (not including shipping). I'm probably mistaken but, if not, those prices are way too high for me (and I have gotten some extraordinary leaf for well under $100).
I have always been very impressed with BB reviews, but if I can't see a current price stated clearly at the get-go I'll look to other vendors who are more transparent.
BB's competitors don't seem to have a problem listing 500g or 1000g prices. I would say that it's kind of baffling if it didn't simply look like a scheme.
And if I'm going to be piled-on because I posted this (or if it is judged as not keeping with forum policy) I would rather it be deleted.
I certainly respect your decision to purchase wherever you want but I have to completely disagree with you regarding the comparison of Botanical Bunny and Re-leaf. Not even close. Botanical Bunny uses a simple coupon code, just like 90% of the other vendors out there including Lizas and Smiley. Not only that, Botanical Bunny actually advertises the 20% off coupon code on their webpage. Loud and clear at the very top of the page for everyone to use.....
https://botanicalbunny.com/?s=speciosa& ... pe=product.
It's a simple 20% off your order by using "reddit20" at checkout. There is a split kilo code that you can use instead which I think is something like "4way" but with the discount it comes out to be like $80 per kilo either way. So just use "reddit20" to get the same price.
Also, Botanical Bunny will occasionally comment in this forum in a very respectful and helpful manner. I'm not going to waste my time going into my options on some of the Re-leaf comments made in this forum but I will say that I will never purchase from Re-leaf for as long as I live. He was ban from this forum for a reason and i was 100% in agreement with it.
It's your decision to choose where you spend your hard earned money but you will miss out on some of the best leaf out there in my opinion. The PMD 12 is almost legend around here. I think I have somewhere around 6 kilos of BB leaf and one of their batches seems to always be in my rotation and they make it easy to know how to separate the batches by providing the supplier code for each batch. One week I'll use KC which is identified as Lot 12, the next week I will change over to VLNT which I believe is Lot 13 and the next week I switch that out with either Fransherb (Lot 17) or GGK (Lot 14). Pretty simple.
Good luck in your search.
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Re: If you like mood lift you need to try this
Great explanation guitartodd, thank you!! You pretty much expressed my thoughts exactly across the board.... Def can't compare re-leaf to much of anyone no less BB! And I mean in the same way as you did... I'll never ever even contemplate purchasing from that guy! BB had been using the same coupon codes for as long as I've been using Kratom now. Everyone has their reasons for picking and choosing vendors as I've said before, and we are all entitled to our opinions/choices, of course!guitartodd77 wrote:Hey Greyfeather,Greyfeather wrote:Thanks M. But why do I "have to," I'm wondering. This kind of arrangement reminds me of the Re-leaf Guy who makes customers jump through a dozen hoops and sign up for customer loyalty, etc. before you can buy his leaf (with your shirt still intact).Marcussk wrote:4WAY or its FOURWAY one. And REDDIT20.
I have always been very impressed with BB reviews, but if I can't see a current price stated clearly at the get-go I'll look to other vendors who are more transparent.
BB's competitors don't seem to have a problem listing 500g or 1000g prices. I would say that it's kind of baffling if it didn't simply look like a scheme.
And if I'm going to be piled-on because I posted this (or if it is judged as not keeping with forum policy) I would rather it be deleted.
I certainly respect your decision to purchase wherever you want but I have to completely disagree with you regarding the comparison of Botanical Bunny and Re-leaf. Not even close. Botanical Bunny uses a simple coupon code, just like 90% of the other vendors out there including Lizas and Smiley. Not only that, Botanical Bunny actually advertises the 20% off coupon code on their webpage. Loud and clear at the very top of the page for everyone to use.....
https://botanicalbunny.com/?s=speciosa& ... pe=product.
It's a simple 20% off your order by using "reddit20" at checkout. There is a split kilo code that you can use instead which I think is something like "4way" but with the discount it comes out to be like $80 per kilo either way. So just use "reddit20" to get the same price.
Also, Botanical Bunny will occasionally comment in this forum in a very respectful and helpful manner. I'm not going to waste my time going into my options on some of the Re-leaf comments made in this forum but I will say that I will never purchase from Re-leaf for as long as I live. He was ban from this forum for a reason and i was 100% in agreement with it.
It's your decision to choose where you spend your hard earned money but you will miss out on some of the best leaf out there in my opinion. The PMD 12 is almost legend around here. I think I have somewhere around 6 kilos of BB leaf and one of their batches seems to always be in my rotation and they make it easy to know how to separate the batches by providing the supplier code for each batch. One week I'll use KC which is identified as Lot 12, the next week I will change over to VLNT which I believe is Lot 13 and the next week I switch that out with either Fransherb (Lot 17) or GGK (Lot 14). Pretty simple.
Good luck in your search.
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Re: If you like mood lift you need to try this
I've been a DG botanicals guy for most my kratom career and then i would buy emergency apocalypse stockpile of kilograms from from SoCal (FristCoastTeaCo now) and mitragaia (way back in the day when they were still somewhat decent).... So basically i strictly take DG kratom and every once in awhile will try some of the Socal stuff that I've had for over a year, at least... Is botanical bunny comparable to DG? I really would like to find a vendor that doesn't cost $47.50 for a simple 250g bag or $52.75 for 125g of his "premium" ... Even tho a lot of the times his premiums are out of this world it stilll hits my wallet too hard..
Have any of you guys tried DG premiums or normals recently and if so how do they compare to botanical bunny?
Have any of you guys tried DG premiums or normals recently and if so how do they compare to botanical bunny?
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Re: If you like mood lift you need to try this
tophat wrote:I've been a DG botanicals guy for most my kratom career and then i would buy emergency apocalypse stockpile of kilograms from from SoCal (FristCoastTeaCo now) and mitragaia (way back in the day when they were still somewhat decent).... So basically i strictly take DG kratom and every once in awhile will try some of the Socal stuff that I've had for over a year, at least... Is botanical bunny comparable to DG? I really would like to find a vendor that doesn't cost $47.50 for a simple 250g bag or $52.75 for 125g of his "premium" ... Even tho a lot of the times his premiums are out of this world it stilll hits my wallet too hard..
I'm pretty sure DG is members only so I've never tried his leaf so I can't really compare.
Have any of you guys tried DG premiums or normals recently and if so how do they compare to botanical bunny?
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Re: If you like mood lift you need to try this
Have any of you guys tried DG premiums or normals recently and if so how do they compare to botanical bunny?[/quote]
DG is usually pretty great (but still pretty hit or miss for me) but I’ve had a lot of leaf from BB that was nearly as good as DG, at the much better pricing. If you get a chance to try Texas Family Harvest, if he opens up a MM member sale again, it blows both DG and BB out of the water IMO. Also people are trading some of his leaf on the trading post if you want to take a look. Decent prices as well.
DG is usually pretty great (but still pretty hit or miss for me) but I’ve had a lot of leaf from BB that was nearly as good as DG, at the much better pricing. If you get a chance to try Texas Family Harvest, if he opens up a MM member sale again, it blows both DG and BB out of the water IMO. Also people are trading some of his leaf on the trading post if you want to take a look. Decent prices as well.
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Re: If you like mood lift you need to try this
I just ordered this batch of JK lot 12 2003 and also the Verde lot 14 2002. Thanks for the recommendation!Spencemastaflex wrote:Botanical Bunny's Green Jong Kong 12...... 9/10!
The only reason I'm not giving this a 10/10 is because something would need to absolutely out of this world to make me give it at 10 but for most people this would probably be a 10.
It kicks in so fast and has some serious legs. It gives great energy with a fantastic mood lift. I've tried this multiple times now with the same results. I absolutely love botanical bunny. Some of their stuff doesn't work for me but I feel like I have this "team" of kratom from them that is just fantastic. The mood lift on this is so good it just makes you so happy! Please try this strain if you haven't I highly recommend!!
I have really enjoyed most of his Greens and it is good to hear this batch is happening!
Ordering was simple and just put in Reddit20 in the coupon box for 20% off - my experience with Botanical Bunny has been very good and consider him an excellent vendor
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Re: If you like mood lift you need to try this
Sure enough! I had to look at my museum specimines (I won't let them run out- they blend in to make things better). My BB GJK is lot 13 from 3 years ago. As described but mine has a slow slant but not heavy.
I just never made it back around.
Long since rotated but attests to their standards. My other 2 - green & Yellow Bentuangie. they are 5 star Excellent. Wish others could learn something from these farmers. What bents are supposed to be.
I just never made it back around.
Long since rotated but attests to their standards. My other 2 - green & Yellow Bentuangie. they are 5 star Excellent. Wish others could learn something from these farmers. What bents are supposed to be.
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Re: If you like mood lift you need to try this
DG is usually pretty great (but still pretty hit or miss for me) but I’ve had a lot of leaf from BB that was nearly as good as DG, at the much better pricing. If you get a chance to try Texas Family Harvest, if he opens up a MM member sale again, it blows both DG and BB out of the water IMO. Also people are trading some of his leaf on the trading post if you want to take a look. Decent prices as well.[/quote]Tbaby wrote:Have any of you guys tried DG premiums or normals recently and if so how do they compare to botanical bunny?
Lucky 4 yous TFH is not "if", it's will soon in a week or so accd to a post in General Kratom discussions.
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Re: If you like mood lift you need to try this
Isn't bent always red?Transformato wrote:Sure enough! I had to look at my museum specimines (I won't let them run out- they blend in to make things better). My BB GJK is lot 13 from 3 years ago. As described but mine has a slow slant but not heavy.
I just never made it back around.
Long since rotated but attests to their standards. My other 2 - green & Yellow Bentuangie. they are 5 star Excellent. Wish others could learn something from these farmers. What bents are supposed to be.
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Re: If you like mood lift you need to try this
No not always. But bents are supposed to be fermented. Look up tea fermentation and it will give you an idea of how that worksSpencemastaflex wrote:Isn't bent always red?Transformato wrote:Sure enough! I had to look at my museum specimines (I won't let them run out- they blend in to make things better). My BB GJK is lot 13 from 3 years ago. As described but mine has a slow slant but not heavy.
I just never made it back around.
Long since rotated but attests to their standards. My other 2 - green & Yellow Bentuangie. they are 5 star Excellent. Wish others could learn something from these farmers. What bents are supposed to be.
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Re: If you like mood lift you need to try this
Coo... got Green JongKong and yellow on the Way!!
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Re: If you like mood lift you need to try this
Kyle4434 wrote:Coo... got Green JongKong and yellow on the Way!!
Yesssss! You got the #2003 batch of gjk12?
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Re: If you like mood lift you need to try this
Yesirrrr....
Based on your recommendation, so if it doesn't exceed my expectations you owe me money.
KIDDING
I hate ordering blindly before sampling but all the good strains from the hazel sampler i tried were sold out and my kratom stash is running on empty.. so yeah got 250 of the GJK and the Yellow.
How do you think it compares to his bomb ace PMD?
P.s. I'll come back in here when I receive and give a review. His stuff is always good (except the Gold, just weirdly did nothing for me).. so I have no worries.
THANKS MANE...
Based on your recommendation, so if it doesn't exceed my expectations you owe me money.
KIDDING
I hate ordering blindly before sampling but all the good strains from the hazel sampler i tried were sold out and my kratom stash is running on empty.. so yeah got 250 of the GJK and the Yellow.
How do you think it compares to his bomb ace PMD?
P.s. I'll come back in here when I receive and give a review. His stuff is always good (except the Gold, just weirdly did nothing for me).. so I have no worries.
THANKS MANE...
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Re: If you like mood lift you need to try this
I don't think anything will quite compare to his #2001 PMD, but it's up there. You should also try Liza's botanicals. Everything I got from her was straight fire. And yeah the gold did absolutely nothing for me either hahaKyle4434 wrote:Yesirrrr....
Based on your recommendation, so if it doesn't exceed my expectations you owe me money.
KIDDING
I hate ordering blindly before sampling but all the good strains from the hazel sampler i tried were sold out and my kratom stash is running on empty.. so yeah got 250 of the GJK and the Yellow.
How do you think it compares to his bomb ace PMD?
P.s. I'll come back in here when I receive and give a review. His stuff is always good (except the Gold, just weirdly did nothing for me).. so I have no worries.
THANKS MANE...
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Re: If you like mood lift you need to try this
After a while, i realized how good happy go lucky one is from Liza, def a steady mood lifter that puts a smile on.
Kratom user since 2014!
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Re: If you like mood lift you need to try this
I am LOVING that right nowbrave777 wrote:After a while, i realized how good happy go lucky one is from Liza, def a steady mood lifter that puts a smile on.
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Re: If you like mood lift you need to try this
Spencemastaflex wrote:Isn't bent always red?Transformato wrote:Sure enough! I had to look at my museum specimines (I won't let them run out- they blend in to make things better). My BB GJK is lot 13 from 3 years ago. As described but mine has a slow slant but not heavy.
I just never made it back around.
Long since rotated but attests to their standards. My other 2 - green & Yellow Bentuangie. they are 5 star Excellent. Wish others could learn something from these farmers. What bents are supposed to be.
what were the effects you got from green bent? I am looking for 1 more 250g to add to my kilo. Got Green Jongkong 12 (Lot 12 - batch 2003) Yellow (lot 12 - batch 2003) - 250 g Premium MD (lot 12 - batch 1811) - 250 g so far but looking for 1 more. Something with a great mood boost as my depression is kind of acting up after being laid off.