Cheap Indonesian Vendor Review?

[killzallx2]

Hi all, I've found this Indonesian Kratom vendor selling really cheap bulk deals and has a variety of 22 different strains. Does anyone have any history ordering with this vendor or reviews?

https://www.borneobotanical.com/

[whiffypants]

I don't, never heard of them myself, but it's not surprising -- LOTS of new vendors in business this year, and that domain has only been registered since February. You might want to check Facebook and see if they have a presence there, if no one else recognizes them here. Good luck!

EDITED TO ADD: Borneo Botanicals is on BallzDeep9's Indo vendor list on Saidit, so he's legit and has known good transactions. Ballzy's Indo list is here: https://saidit.net/s/KratomVendors/comm ... _for_2018/

[killzallx2]

So I actually found this Vendor from that same post. he stated in his post "NO company is endorsed here or recommended. Caveat Emptor!" which is basically buyers beware, as in not verified. That's why I came here to verify this vendor

[whiffypants]

Yeah, I'm VERY familiar with the list and its wording, thanks. I'm the one who reformats it from HTML into BBCode and has to review every single line in it, every single time we post it.

He doesn't endorse or guarantee -- hence the phrase you quoted -- but look a little higher and you will find something about "no known problems" as well. This is VERY important: as soon as any problems or unresolved complaints are made known to him, he investigates and drops that vendor.

NOBODY can "verify" a kratom vendor. And even if someone responds to you saying "sure, I got leaf there, he's a great guy" you have zero guarantee that it wasn't just a shill.

So the guarantee you're looking for does not exist in reality.

But Ballzy's list I trust: he's saved me personally from a number of mistakes, and the same for others here and on Reddit. I don't know jack about that vendor personally, but I -do- know Ballzy. So I take my chances, knowing he can't vet or verify anyone either, but at least it's an indication of successful kratom transactions in the past for the vendors listed.

And the most important thing about that list and this site is that it's all literally because we love kratom and want to be here. No one takes kickbacks, no one takes free samples, no one gets financial or other consideration in return for a positive mention. That list, and this site, are completely non-monetized, just as it was on Reddit. And that alone means more to me than I can quantify in words.

So I will say to you in reply what Ballzy said to you and you quoted back to me: caveat emptor.

[killzallx2]

Haha ok I will be ordering from them soon and will update early September. but if there's anyone else's review or opinion it would be much appreciated!

[whiffypants]

I hope if you have a good transaction you write us a review! That's actually what I count on most -- good reviews by people that participate in the community -- and as many of 'em as I can find. So good luck, and come back and let us know how it was!

And who knows, maybe someone here will come along and know more about them than I do... this happens frequently.

[BallzDeep9]

It's a good topic, thanks for starting it killzallx2 - maybe we can list some "cheap" Indo vendors, with also "good" quality!!

I'm tracking Indo suppliers, just like I do with USA vendors .. Over the past year, Indo has exploded with many "vendors" who are NOT suppliers.. they are re-sellers, who do not appear to supply any USA vendor.

By re-seller, we mean the 100's of Indo guys on Facebook and MeWe, who want to sell you kratom .. they usually have photos, and a Facebook page, a Gmail address, and maybe Instagram too. All of this costs them nothing. They are re-sellers or agents, for other established Indo suppliers who DO have a business, and a warehouse.

However! This year we ARE seeing a few NEW business people there, who have set up websites, for selling direct to US consumers !! Borneo Botanical is a great example.. I think his name is Gugun Badriana Yusu. He registered the domain in Feb 2018 -- so 4 or 5 months ago. Good timing, right after the Reddit ban, when MeWe happened in March -- there he was, brand new Indo website selling direct.

So the reason I listed Borneo Botanical -- he did get several reviews on MeWe. Some from backpack sellers .. but more than 1 or 2 reviews and all fairly positive. ALSO, his website is very well done. It's maybe the top Indo website for selling direct. His packaging and everything about the presentation, is way professional and obviously shows investment.

Final Note: ALL of the direct Indo websites have some things in common .. Prices are shown per Kilo. They don't really deal in quarters, or small amounts like US vendors do It's 1 Kilo minimum .. then you ADD Shipping to the price shown .. Shipping is at least $35 - there was a recent increase in Shipping cost - So take the Kilo price $35 .. Add shipping $35 = Total cost for the 1 Kilo is $70.

Which is about the SAME, as buying a Split Kilo from RVA for $70 shipped .. right? Except with Indo .. there's no guarantee. Shipments HAVE been seized in the past, by US Customs - so there's a chance you lose your $70. Buying from a USA vendor there's no problem. ALSO -- you don't get to sample the leaf. You must buy 1 kilo, usually NO splits. Buying domestic from RVA or SoCal, you can sample, you can split 4 ways, same price

Where you save money, is buying 5 Kilos or even better, 10 kilos .. BUT then, you should compare with a Supplier like Sulawesi or others. Borneo Botanicals has a nice website .. but I don't think his quality beats Sulawesi's 5 kilo Starter Pack.

[killzallx2]

Thank you so much for your post. I actually live in Canada and Kratom is legal here, however there's a grey area where its not legal to consume but it is legal for other reason like incense or soap. Borneo Botanical does actually offer a package of 1k split into 10 different strains of any kind that he offers. He currently has 22 different strains. When I compare his prices (including shipping) with any other vendor I've seen online (Indo or not) he offers the best deal. You can basically order 2xSample option with all different strains and own 20 x 100g of Different Strains, which in total is 2 kilos. The variety he has and the split options look really tempting compared to the price.

[killzallx2]

Sulawesi is nice and all with the variety they offer but all their pictures of their kratom are the same with a filter added. It seems hard to believe that all the strains they offer are actually what they really are, however, they do have a really nice website. I did read somewhere where they did not fulfill an order. I will link that below. Look for "glassbalcony's" reply, however it could just be false. I would order from them just to try them but Borneo Botanical seems like a better bang for your buck.

https://www.reddit.com/r/kratom/comment ... si_kratom/

[biofluke]

Sulawesi is 100% legit and their strains are carried by Kratom-OG. I just recieved the Freshy pack from Sulawesi, which includes 5 of their Sulawesi branded strains. They are all some of the best quality kratom ive ever had. I wouldnt take that one reddit thread with much concern. THere are dozens of positive reviews for sulawesi on here.

Their current deal is 5 kilos for 250 shipped. cant beat that.

[e_poison]

Yeah, Sulawesi Kratom is a legit vendor with high quality product. All the kratom came packaged in airtight sealed packs, was super fresh, and arrived quickly with custom's paperwork. Boby is a good dude who treats his customers great. I don't think I've seen a negative review for them.

Borneo Botanical has some good reviews, although I've never ordered from them personally. I know they are legit though.

[Azrael]

I will vouch for Borneo Botanicals all day long. Great guy, good kratom.

[killzallx2]

Ordered 2x Samplers!