DONT SHIP FROM INDO VIA UPS!

[Johnsonsbotanicals]

Hey i know many of you get kratom from indonesia ans there are many vendors on here. i want to warn you do not trust ups to ship with. i know ppl getting seized left n right 100s of kilos via ups. the other routes atm arent the safest but ups damn near every order ive heard of has been delayed n seized. there are some options just dont use ups. if you have knowledge to the contrary please share.

[whiffypants]

For myself, I've put off any thoughts of ordering Indo because of the current situation, but I know others will appreciate your warning greatly. Thanks for taking the time. Good info!

[BallzDeep9]

Wow, thanks for posting. I am seeing MANY Indo's posting screen shots of their UPS shipments - followed by a sales pitch of course "Buy My Kratom! Look at my Shipments!" haha .. In fact I supposedly have one en route, so we shall see! They are saying UPS is much faster than EMS - like 5 days. I guess we'll know more within a week. This is ALL in response to the POS Indonesia shipping delay, and Badger's "Panic Post" on Facebook last week which triggered a bunch of panic buying...

[DirtyRadish]

Thanks for the info guys. Yeah I keep seeing Indo's claiming UPS is THE safest quickest route right now. What a mess hey.

[michaelconstipe]

Wow, thanks for posting. I am seeing MANY Indo's posting screen shots of their UPS shipments - followed by a sales pitch of course "Buy My Kratom! Look at my Shipments!" haha .. In fact I supposedly have one en route, so we shall see! They are saying UPS is much faster than EMS - like 5 days. I guess we'll know more within a week. This is ALL in response to the POS Indonesia shipping delay, and Badger's "Panic Post" on Facebook last week which triggered a bunch of panic buying...

Got a screenshot of the Badger Facebook post? This isn't the first time Acadica has taken advantage of news imbalances to make blurbs to quickly sell products or raise prices (Late 2017 price increase to $99 per kilo for several months without explanation, conveniently after the good reviews poured in on Reddit) Or the average potency that was released as "Green JongKong 2" etc after the good reviews poured in for the originals, not to mention the White Kali had gritty sand texture, not just low in potency. Also I was informed they would have cGMP Kilo's at $70~ish by middle of August when I asked in early August about it. The customer service at Acadica has declined, I wasn't able to purchase a split kilo and the explanations were inadequate

[herbalhippie]

which triggered a bunch of panic buying...

[Smokenfireball]

Here is the October 10 Facebook post from Acadica that triggered the panic buying.

Since everybody has been waiting to spill the beans, I’ll step up. Kratom is not legally being allowed into the country until further notice. Those who claim otherwise are deceiving you. The FDA has now forced all companies to smuggle rather than import legally.

In addition, all incoming shipments from EMS have halted and prices will be skyrocketing by the end of the year. We can lay down and let vulnerable people suffer, or we can fight it. Contact your reps and tell them about what the FDA is doing, how their irresponsible actions are affecting your life. Demand an answer. We’re a step away from a complete kratom outage. This is not fear-mongering. Time is legitimately up for legitimate importing. All but the biggest companies will be low on stock within a month or two, and the big guys will have increasingly lower quality product if things don’t adjust quickly.

If you’re not mad, you should be. We’re on the cusp of watching hundreds of thousands revert back to heroin, pain killers, and fentanyl - all because the FDA hasn’t the faintest clue what real people suffer through. If this doesn’t resolve quick, the next few years will be filled with ever-increasing opiate genocide by big pharma. Real people and their real families will suffer because of this massive judgement error by the FDA.

The only good news I have is that science is on our side. It always has been. Addiction specialists and researchers throughout the country have voiced their support of kratom. Many of the most skeptical have shaped their views to conform with increasingly convincing evidence. Kratom studies are showing promise we could have only dreamt of years ago. But, it’s all for naught if it’s blocked from entering our dying country.

Whether you’re making soap or fighting crippling chronic pain, you have the right to kratom. Fight for your ability to choose. Fight for those who are weaker than you. I’ll give you two easy ways to make this happen: first, contact your representatives. This is crucial, we are in a tight spot where only government can stop government. Second, share this. We need to get this information out TODAY. Make no mistake, we will not win without your help.

Any questions will be answered below.

Edit: added a few needed corrections. Expectations need to be tempered. This is urgent, but I’ve adjusted a few things to manage negative expectations and add some positivity.

[Brad frerichs]

Smokinfireball, your post is the information true? Or do you know? Sorry if I’m slow

[BallzDeep9]

Smokinfireball, WHY post this ? Old News ? In fact he apologized and "corrected" his post, the very next day ... Go ahead, post his Follow Up from the following day please. And then... while you're at it... go ahead and post SoCal's post the next day which corrected the whole MESS. Thanks!

Kratom is a "business" FULL of bullshit. Facebook is full of BS ... It doesn't help to spread negative stories which only make the BS WORSE.

[whiffypants]

Smokinfireball, your post is the information true? Or do you know? Sorry if I’m slow

It all turned out to be an issue with shipping delays on the Indo side, not legislation on the US side. As Ballz said above, the Acadica FB post that was quoted was not an accurate picture of the situation. Your kratom is still rollin' in, even if maybe a bit slower than usual, and it's a temporary situation.

Good for some spur-of-the-moment no-holds-barred panic buying sprees, though. -Much- fun was had all around... right, Hippie?

[herbalhippie]

Good for some spur-of-the-moment no-holds-barred panic buying sprees, though. -Much- fun was had all around... right, Hippie?

Tons of fun! Literally!

[whiffypants]