Liza's Botanicals

Post by **Ctict** » Tue Nov 27, 2018 12:12 pm

I placed an order with Liza's Botanicals last week late in the evening, paid and by early morning I had a TN. She was very nice to me kind in every email. So A+ for customer service and shipping(package arrived in 2 days)

My order was 1oz each of Super Green MD, Red MD, Red Bali, White Indo and Super Green Elephant.

Super Green MD was very good. Nice energy, not edgy like White MD can be, felt positive and good.

Super Green Elephant I've tried once and it seems like a good green with less on the stimulating side and more towards a chilled, feel good mood booster.

White Indo is very good, it's similar to many whites but not as stimulating and a bit more euphoric. It seems better than other whites in the analgesic dept by a ways.

Red MD I really like this one. It's not sedating and when mixed with a white it seems to have some synergy. Taken by itself in the afternoon I feel good without being sleepy.

Red Bali I've never tried it. This seemed to be a pretty relaxing and had high analgesic properties- I'd only take it if at home for the night. Seems to not last long but that could be me.

Overall I'm a fan of Liza's Botanicals, I'd definitely order again and get the White Indo and Red MD/Super Green Elephant. She provides excellent customer service and a very good product.

Post by **NMKrato** » Tue Nov 27, 2018 2:09 pm

Great review! Im going to have to give them a try soon as I've heard such great things about them.

Post by **BallzDeep9** » Tue Nov 27, 2018 2:34 pm

Just got my 1st order, samples from Liza's Botanicals. She definitely imports from multiple Indo sources, which is always good. Great selection!

I would say she's got MORE selection than Johnson's, or most other vendors.. She's got Asia strains IN stock. Batak, Big Bang, Slippery Rock, these are all different suppliers.. Liza's right up there with Harry at K-OG .. not quite but almost!

I HAVE tried her PMD - it's excellent, The Best PMD on the market right now that I'm aware of.

Post by **whiffypants** » Tue Nov 27, 2018 2:42 pm

Ctict wrote:I placed an order with Liza's Botanicals last week...

There actually is a "Lisa's Botanicals" out there somewhere, if I remember correctly, so I corrected your title spelling to prevent any confusion.

Good review, thanks!

Post by **Ctict** » Tue Nov 27, 2018 5:58 pm

Oops! Sorry for the spelling error.

Regardless she has grade a quality and a large selection especially considering the fact that when I ordered most places were out of stock, low stock or raising prices.

I do have a question and I guess I could ask her but what does the “enhanced” option entail? Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask.

Also PMD? I’ve never heard of that kind of kratom.

Post by **whiffypants** » Tue Nov 27, 2018 6:20 pm

No problem; I wouldn't have even touched it, except I didn't want anyone to read your excellent review and then wonder how to find Lisa.

"PMD" usually stands for "Premium Maeng Da", which is often a green of higher quality but obviously the name gets pre-empted like everything else in the kratom world, so something called PMD may or may not be "premium" in effects.

"Enhanced" is usually when a vendor has added kratom extract to their normal kratom leaf powder. You won't see a visible difference, but you can usually tell when the dose hits, and it's a good idea to start off with less than your normal dose. You also don't want to do it regularly because extracts will quickly amp up your tolerance levels, but it's good for occasional use or high pain days. The vendor can tell you more about their specific offering, but that's generally what it means.

As long as the top post is an actual review you can ask whatever you want in this section of the forum, and questions often make for lively review discussions. You're good.

Post by **DrPsilocybong** » Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:01 pm

I got my order in last night. I got green sulawesi,green banjo,green jawi,green slippery Rock, and white horn. I got an oz of red Bali and she threw in an oz of green zombie. So far I'm impressed. I can't decide on what one to test tomorrow. I tried the green zombie and I liked it alot.

Post by **Oliverclothesoff** » Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:44 am

Am i missing something or is there zero contact info on her site. Wanted to ask a few questions.

Post by **DrPsilocybong** » Wed Nov 28, 2018 2:37 pm

Oliverclothesoff wrote:Am i missing something or is there zero contact info on her site. Wanted to ask a few questions.

[email protected] is the email they were responding to me with.

Post by **Oliverclothesoff** » Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:14 pm

Thanks Dr. Got some samples coming.

Post by **DrPsilocybong** » Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:17 am

Oliverclothesoff wrote:Thanks Dr. Got some samples coming.

Not a prob man. Enjoy. What samples did you get? I got a free oz of green zombie and I'm enjoying it alot.

Post by **Thekid1420** » Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:52 pm

Does anybody know what is in their blends. Maybe I'm just missing it but I don't see a breakdown of the strains. I'm assuming things like red headed step child is a red blend but not sure about the others.

Post by **BunnyBoo2011** » Thu Nov 29, 2018 9:43 pm

BallzDeep9 wrote:
I would say she's got MORE selection than Johnson's, or most other vendors.. She's got Asia strains IN stock. Batak, Big Bang, Slippery Rock, these are all different suppliers.. Liza's right up there with Harry at K-OG .. not quite but almost!

Ballz - dont forget, Johnson's is done...finito...kaput.

Post by **Ctict** » Fri Nov 30, 2018 1:11 pm

I'll just say she has more than any other site I've seen and I plan to get a half or quarter split kilo from her soon.

Post by **Oliverclothesoff** » Fri Nov 30, 2018 1:35 pm

Looking forward to getting my samples tomorrow. I got the RMD, R Bali, and both PMD.

Post by **Ctict** » Fri Nov 30, 2018 1:52 pm

Oliverclothesoff wrote:Looking forward to getting my samples tomorrow. I got the RMD, R Bali, and both PMD.

I love red maeng da and Liza's is fantastic. I still have a lot of the Red Bali-it works well but I just love Red MD and I'll take that unless it's very late or I wake up with bad nerve pain (I did last night and the red ball fixed me up).

My next order will contain PMD and more Red MD if they're in stock. I am going to guess you'll be pleased with your samples. I want to share my good experience with Liza's but I don't want her running out of stock completely like my last go-to (Mystic Island) lol. I'm sure it'll be fine.

Post by **BallzDeep9** » Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:57 pm

I want to share my good experience with Liza's but I don't want her running out of stock completely

Bingo. She's Flying under the radar atm.. Everybody's yelling about KOG and Socal and BB and Johnson's etc. Meanwhile, Liza's has AS good, OR better! Quality than most vendors .. IN stock .. And "almost" as much variety as KOG does ( Nobody beats Harry on selection.) I'm just going through Samples right now -Tolerance Break this week- But personally I have moved Liza's up on my List for another order!!

Post by **herbalhippie** » Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:42 pm

Ballz, you (or anyone) know what Liza's Green Nugroz is like?

And how do you order a split half on her site?

Post by **Kaidensmom** » Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:46 am

You just order 2 250's and it prices it as a half in the check out

Post by **herbalhippie** » Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:51 am

Kaidensmom wrote:You just order 2 250's and it prices it as a half in the check out

Thank you!

Post by **Trailmix** » Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:21 am

I liked all 5 that I got from Liza’s so much that I had to order more, tried the red banjo, green pmd3
Green ace 2 red Big Bang and white Big Bang, wonderful vendor to add to my stash of jonhsons, mystic island, rva, dg botanicals, and SoCal. Def reccomend to anyone who was using Johnson’s prices are the same

Post by **FuckHeroin** » Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:42 pm

BallzDeep9 wrote:Just got my 1st order, samples from Liza's Botanicals. She definitely imports from multiple Indo sources, which is always good. Great selection!

I would say she's got MORE selection than Johnson's, or most other vendors.. She's got Asia strains IN stock. Batak, Big Bang, Slippery Rock, these are all different suppliers.. Liza's right up there with Harry at K-OG .. not quite but almost!

I HAVE tried her PMD - it's excellent, The Best PMD on the market right now that I'm aware of.

PMD 1 2 or 3?

Post by **BallzDeep9** » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:05 pm

Hi fuckheroin, you know, I'm not exactly sure What Batch .. I just ordered some Oz's. Small quality bags. Label just says PMD - Obviously she has, 3 diff sources for PMD - She does carry Brand Name Kratom and that's important - We as consumers know she's got Batak, Big Bang, Nugroz, Asia, etc.

Post by **Maxxx** » Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:12 pm

FuckHeroin wrote:PMD 1 2 or 3?

I have both 2 and 3 from her, but I've only tried 3. It's really good, but I wouldn't say it's as good as the PMD Johnson's had before closing shop.

I've ordered a ridiculous amount from Liza's over the past few weeks, and I haven't come across a bad strain yet. As far as greens go, her Green Premium Kalbar is one of the best greens I've ever had. My favorites from her so far have been her blends. I've tried all of them other than the Gold Blend, and her #2 blend(enhanced). Golden Tulip was really good, but the Happy Go Lucky and the Relaxer Elixir are astonishing. Red Headed Step Child is also amazing. Other than those, her Red MD is one of the best I've tried. Overall, I've been incredibly impressed. I was a regular at Johnson's, but once in a while I'd pick up a sample from him that fell flat. So far, that hasn't happened with Liza's. I'm done buying for a very long time (went a little nuts). Hope it lasts for years and years in the unopened bags like people claim, or I'm out a ton of money. lol.

Another place to try that I've stocked up way too much on is Inland Botanicals. They're a bit more pricey, but holy shit! Their Green MD and Red MD are absolutely incredible, same with a few of their blends. I absolutely love The Bulgarian. One of my favorite blends.

I don't know if Kratom is getting better across the board at the moment, or if these two places are just undiscovered gems, but with Johnson's closing their doors, I was really happy to find these two vendors (Thank you Ballz). I'd even say they're better than Johnson's.

Post by **Haid3r** » Sun Dec 02, 2018 4:07 pm

Maxxx wrote:the Happy Go Lucky and the Relaxer Elixir are astonishing.

Wowza

I know, I know, no two people will have the same experience and reviews can raise a person's expectations too high, but when someone says a blend is "astonishing" I reach for my wallet! Heading over to Liza's right this minute.

Post by **Ctict** » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:04 am

Just got a half kilo split from Liza’s Botanicals and one of the strains is happy go lucky. Nice to hear others find it a good one because I got it based on reviews. Also got some white dragon and slippery rock. I’ll review those along with happy go lucky when it arrives. I know the PMD and Red MD will be fantastic.

Post by **NMKrato** » Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:54 pm

I've got my cart loaded up with a split kilo, with some input from here, there is PMD 3, Red MD, Premium green kalbar, relaxer elixir and happy go lucky. Haven't heard much of their whites so I didnt any yet. Should I add or subtract any of those?

Edit: She emailed me back and said the relaxer elixir has yellow and red, yellows do not agree with my body, so that one is out. Time to switch it out for another, but what shall it be..

Post by **Maxxx** » Mon Dec 03, 2018 6:32 pm

NMKrato wrote:but what shall it be..

Red-headed step child is another one of my fav's, but I really like vendor blends. I've also heard her White Slippery Rock is great, and same with the premium green elephant. I have both of those on the way, so I haven't tried them yet. I've gone through a lot of her samples. Some I like a lot more than others, but I haven't come across a bad one yet. Good luck.

I didn't realize Relaxer Elixir had yellows in it, but that makes sense. It's amazing for anxiety, so I should've guessed.

Post by **NMKrato** » Mon Dec 03, 2018 6:50 pm

I switched the relaxer out for the super green elephant and sent the order through

Love how she has a 5 way split kilo at no extra charge!

Post by **Haid3r** » Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:44 pm

NMKrato wrote:She emailed me back and said the relaxer elixir has yellow and red, yellows do not agree with my body, so that one is out.

Ooh, interesting. I don't have much experience with yellows; my only experience was a sample yellow from Garuda and a teensy dose of that put my flat on my back on the sofa in a trance with my eyes closed for 2 hours, so it sounds like Relaxer Elixir has definite soporific promise, haha.

Post by **herbalhippie** » Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:18 pm

I went to Liza's hoping to get some Green Nugroz and she was out. Checked again today and she had restocked. I don't know what else she might have restocked, because I was obsessing only on the Nugroz.

Post by **herbalhippie** » Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:35 am

Of course I haven't got my order yet, but Liza is a joy to deal with. We had a little chat by email, very pleasant! Got my tracking number within a couple hours of ordering.

Post by **Ctict** » Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:55 am

herbalhippie wrote:Of course I haven't got my order yet, but Liza is a joy to deal with. We had a little chat by email, very pleasant! Got my tracking number within a couple hours of ordering.

I haven't received mine yet, either. It was shipped quickly after I ordered it and should have been here today according to USPS but they've been juggling things around a lot. It should (I hope) be here tomorrow and I'll review my stuff when I can!

Post by **herbalhippie** » Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:14 am

Ctict wrote:
herbalhippie wrote:Of course I haven't got my order yet, but Liza is a joy to deal with. We had a little chat by email, very pleasant! Got my tracking number within a couple hours of ordering.
I haven't received mine yet, either. It was shipped quickly after I ordered it and should have been here today according to USPS but they've been juggling things around a lot. It should (I hope) be here tomorrow and I'll review my stuff when I can!

Almost all of my USPS things either receiving or sent out have been a day late and sometimes two recently. It's that time of year.

Post by **Ctict** » Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:22 pm

Maxxx wrote:
FuckHeroin wrote:PMD 1 2 or 3?
. My favorites from her so far have been her blends. I've tried all of them other than the Gold Blend, and her #2 blend(enhanced). .

Can you tell me how the enhanced was? Has anyone else here used her enhanced blend or other strain enhanced? I'd like to try some, might just ask her...

Post by **Ctict** » Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:38 pm

***UPDATED REVIEW***

My half-kilo split 5 ways came bright and early this morning. I got the following:
White Dragon
White Slippery Rock
PMD3 (green)
Happy-Go-Lucky (green)
Red Maeng Da

So far I burned twice- 4g each time, about 3.5 hours apart.

Happy Go Lucky. Wow, this literally lives up to its name. Within 30 minutes I felt great, just like no cares in the world (e.g. happy go lucky). The effects intensified for a couple of hours and stayed with me. This is my favorite green and I've tried all of the normal greens, her Super Green Elephant is nice but this is great and recommend to anyone needing a boost of well, happiness and relaxation without sedation.

30 min ago I burned 4g of White Slippery rock. This hit quick, probably due to having taken HGL 3 or so hours prior. I'm experiencing a lot of energy and smiling, my eyes feel funny and the euphoria is very high- higher than anything I've used in the white strain family. This effect of euphoria may be the combo of White Slippery Rock and Happy-Go-Lucky. I also feel very motivated, I really wanted to type this and I'm going to exercise once I am done. I don't know if the euphoria is from the Happy-Go-Lucky and this intensified it but that is kind of how it feels. I need to test them on separate days to make sure.

I'll review the White Dragon and PMD3 tomorrow and Monday. I don't want one to affect the other. But I think both White Slippery Rock and Happy Go Lucky are winners and would highly recommend, especially together. I'm tempted to but a quarter split 2 ways of these:)

Thanks Liza for making these awesome blends and unique strains available at such a great price!

Post by **herbalhippie** » Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:40 pm

Happy Go Lucky is not a fast strain?

Post by **Ctict** » Sat Dec 08, 2018 5:04 pm

herbalhippie wrote:Happy Go Lucky is not a fast strain?

Well the effects kicked in about 20min after I took it (I mistyped 30 min). So yes, fast- for me at least. Most takes 45 min to feel (exceptions being White MD/Vietnam) It's effects lasted at least 3.5 hours until I decided to burn the slippery rock . The euphoric and pain-killing effects of the kratom (burned HGL at 830ish and WSR at 1ish) are just starting to wear off.

One thing I forgot to mention is I got good (nerve pain) pain relief from Happy-Go-Lucky and the White Slippery Rock. Additionally they seemed to synergize.

Post by **herbalhippie** » Sat Dec 08, 2018 5:23 pm

Ctict wrote:
herbalhippie wrote:Happy Go Lucky is not a fast strain?
Well the effects kicked in about 20min after I took it (I mistyped 30 min). So yes, fast- for me at least.

I'm sorry, I meant is it stimulating or more relaxing? That's what is meant by fast or slow. Kratomspeak.

Post by **Kaidensmom** » Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:10 pm

Happy go lucky is a fast strain, and I'm pretty sure white slippery rock was slow. I can't remember how the white felt exactly, but my note says "not good for mornings".