Maengda question from a newbie

[Maria412]

Hello all!

I’ve lurked the reddit boards for close to a year and just found this new board. So I’m wondering about some Maengda I took over 15 hours ago and I’m still feeling effects.

I’ve only tried three vendors, all had good reviews on reddit. I’ve been experimenting slowly because I have chronic pain issues. Two vendors did nothing for me, I had no change in pain whatsoever with a couple different strains. But one vendor was great. I had some quick pain relief and felt great overall. Like I had taken a really deep breath and the pain just subsided. I finally ordered from this vendor again because I only had samples and figured it was time to order a large amount.

I took 3.3 g of Maengda before dinner last night and felt effects pretty quickly. Well 15-16 hours later, I’m still pretty lethargic. I’ve taken Kratom probably 20-30 Times overall in the past six months, and no time has it felt this way. It’s not bad necessarily, just kind of surprising. I thought the half life was much shorter. It was really hard to get out of bed today. I just want to curl up and doze off. Is this normal? Did I take way too much? I’m not freaking out or anything, I just have stuff to do LOL! And I’m kind of out of it.

Thanks for bearing with me. As I said, I’m new to this and just trying to deal with pain that is impacting my life severely. I think Kratom is my answer once I figure out strains and dosing.

[e_poison]

I've never heard of a strain lasting 15 hours. It's usually 4 hours at the most for me. Do you take any prescription meds? Also, what foods did you eat that day? Some foods are potentiators like grapefruit, black pepper, cayenne pepper, and more. Although, I'd doubt a food could stretch a burn that long or everyone would be doing it. Perhaps you've stumbled on the holy grail.

Also, no you didn't take too much. Don't worry. Personally, I take 20+ grams a day, so 3.3 isn't bad.

[Maria412]

Thank you e_poison for your reply. Seriously! I’m like did I win the Kratom lottery?

I didn’t have any medications in my system. And I’d didn’t eat any of the food you listed. However I did drink a cup of ginger tea afterward. Those ginger/honey crystals that dissolve in hot water. They help with the aftertaste and I do it proactively to counter any nausea. I’ve done that with all the other samples and strains I’ve tried, just never had this effect. Do you think it might be the ginger?

Thanks for putting me at ease. I think my next dose will be much smaller. I’ve been on rx meds in the past for my pain so I know what that feels like. This felt much stronger, but without the headache hydrocodone used to give me. Thanks again for the help and suggestions.

[beathappening]

My first guess was a reaction to a prescription but since that's not it...
I definitely don't think the ginger is the culprit.
Kind of a shot in the dark, but just to rule it out- is it possible the kratom was doctored up with something? I don't know much about this admittedly. Is it a trusted vendor?

[Maria412]

Beathappening, I was kind of wondering this myself. It’s why I didn’t name names. I don’t want to insituate a vendor is doing something shady. They are a vendor that is known and had good recs. There are.reviews of some of their strains here.

They were the first of the three vendors I tried and I went back to them to place a large order because their samples helped me better than others. I’m not trying to be coy. It’s just such a radically different response from any others I’ve tried. I’ve only been burning for about six months so I’m still learning. But I’ve tried at least twelve strains and this stuff blew my mind.

[beathappening]

I'm stumped. I've never heard of that sort of thing, def not normal. Maybe try a different strain first? then later try the maeng da again after you adjust the dose (when you have the time to experiment) to narrow it down, and let us know what happens. maybe it was a freak occurrence

[e_poison]

Thank you e_poison for your reply. Seriously! I’m like did I win the Kratom lottery?

No problem!

Do you think it might be the ginger?

I don't think it was the ginger, but some people say it potentiates. I doubt it's strong enough to make the burn last as long as yours did.

Thanks for putting me at ease. I think my next dose will be much smaller. I’ve been on rx meds in the past for my pain so I know what that feels like. This felt much stronger, but without the headache hydrocodone used to give me. Thanks again for the help and suggestions.

You're welcome! Glad the kratom is working for your pain.

[whiffypants]

Welcome, Maria!

I took 3.3 g of Maengda before dinner last night and felt effects pretty quickly. Well 15-16 hours later, I’m still pretty lethargic. I’ve taken Kratom probably 20-30 Times overall in the past six months, and no time has it felt this way. It’s not bad necessarily, just kind of surprising. I thought the half life was much shorter. It was really hard to get out of bed today. I just want to curl up and doze off. Is this normal? Did I take way too much? I’m not freaking out or anything, I just have stuff to do LOL! And I’m kind of out of it.

This exact thing has happened to me -- not frequently, but because my doses are pretty low in general if I get a particularly strong strain (for me) and don't know to adjust the dose, I get hit exactly like you said, especially if it's taken prior to a meal like you did. I can't speak for anyone else, but for me, taking kratom an hour to 30 minutes prior to eating seems to give it really lonnnnng legs, especially if there was a decent amount of dietary fat involved. And a couple of times it was exactly as you described: went to bed under the influence, woke up exactly the same. In fact, I wrote about it recently; it's on the main page (though that was after an extended period off kratom) --

http://www.doublemherbals.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=272

I’m new to this and just trying to deal with pain that is impacting my life severely. I think Kratom is my answer once I figure out strains and dosing.

Yes. This. Have you gotten a scale yet? I'm assuming if you can say "I took 3.3g" that you do, but if not, know that a scale will be your best friend in all this -- and if you have the discipline for it, keeping a log, at least to begin with. Strain, dose, route of administration if you're changing that up, time of day, notes. Me, I'm infamous with winging it -- which is probably exactly why I've had the occasional waking up hammered experiences I've had with kratom.

Just in case, and for whoever comes along behind you, this is the scale I have (linked below) -- it can take up to a kilo but still weigh sub gram amounts accurately, and the weighing surface allows for use of whatever receptacle will fit. I usually use condiment cups, but it will take the weight of a regular bowl as well. That, and you can't beat the price; it was so inexpensive I got a set of calibrating weights to go with it so I could keep it accurate over time.

The scale: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002SC3LLS/
The weights: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NFR33NQ/ (optional!)

Good luck!

[demafrost]

Hello all!

I’ve lurked the reddit boards for close to a year and just found this new board. So I’m wondering about some Maengda I took over 15 hours ago and I’m still feeling effects.

I’ve only tried three vendors, all had good reviews on reddit. I’ve been experimenting slowly because I have chronic pain issues. Two vendors did nothing for me, I had no change in pain whatsoever with a couple different strains. But one vendor was great. I had some quick pain relief and felt great overall. Like I had taken a really deep breath and the pain just subsided. I finally ordered from this vendor again because I only had samples and figured it was time to order a large amount.

I took 3.3 g of Maengda before dinner last night and felt effects pretty quickly. Well 15-16 hours later, I’m still pretty lethargic. I’ve taken Kratom probably 20-30 Times overall in the past six months, and no time has it felt this way. It’s not bad necessarily, just kind of surprising. I thought the half life was much shorter. It was really hard to get out of bed today. I just want to curl up and doze off. Is this normal? Did I take way too much? I’m not freaking out or anything, I just have stuff to do LOL! And I’m kind of out of it.

Thanks for bearing with me. As I said, I’m new to this and just trying to deal with pain that is impacting my life severely. I think Kratom is my answer once I figure out strains and dosing.

It's sounds like you are saying the effects did not last 16 hours, but your relaxed or tired state is still present? If that's the case, is it possible your sleep quality was just bad and as a result you are fatigued? For me I get horrible sleep on kratom...its one of the reasons I limit myself to 2 times a week instead of everyday. It takes me another nights sleep to return to baseline levels of awareness. I know many do not experience this, but I do.