Looking for supplements for brain fog

[Burninator]

Does anyone else feel …slower on Kratom? My memory, concentration, cognitive processing speed, and articulation have all felt like they’ve taken a hit since I started taking it. I know lowering dose and taking a T break are both solid suggestions but I’m wondering if there are any supplements/specific vitamins you’ve noticed help with the mental fatigue at all. My base understanding is that Kratom affects GABA in some capacity and GABAergics are commonly known to blunt cognitive abilities. What are your experiences?

[Voice_of_Morgulduin]

Does anyone else feel …slower on Kratom? My memory, concentration, cognitive processing speed, and articulation have all felt like they’ve taken a hit since I started taking it. I know lowering dose and taking a T break are both solid suggestions but I’m wondering if there are any supplements/specific vitamins you’ve noticed help with the mental fatigue at all. My base understanding is that Kratom affects GABA in some capacity and GABAergics are commonly known to blunt cognitive abilities. What are your experiences?

I can't speak on supplements but I definitely feel negative cognitive effects from Kratom - When I was taking closer to 30 g's a day it actually affected my life negatively at times - about on par with a daily marijuana habit. When I did both together it was definitely a struggle. I cut down to 12 gpd and now its mostly unnoticeable - definitely still there at times though. Just one of those things you have to consider when doing cost benefit analysis. It's worth it for me at this point in my life.

[Burninator]

Does anyone else feel …slower on Kratom? My memory, concentration, cognitive processing speed, and articulation have all felt like they’ve taken a hit since I started taking it. I know lowering dose and taking a T break are both solid suggestions but I’m wondering if there are any supplements/specific vitamins you’ve noticed help with the mental fatigue at all. My base understanding is that Kratom affects GABA in some capacity and GABAergics are commonly known to blunt cognitive abilities. What are your experiences?

I can't speak on supplements but I definitely feel negative cognitive effects from Kratom - When I was taking closer to 30 g's a day it actually affected my life negatively at times - about on par with a daily marijuana habit. When I did both together it was definitely a struggle. I cut down to 12 gpd and now its mostly unnoticeable - definitely still there at times though. Just one of those things you have to consider when doing cost benefit analysis. It's worth it for me at this point in my life.

That’s where I’ve been with it too. The pros outweigh the cons currently but I don’t think they always will (or should). It’s taken a toll on my relationships too tbh. Not entirely dissimilarly to when I was on SSRI’s or mood stabilizers. It’s hard to form and maintain genuine connections when I’m emotionally numb.

[IndelibleDotInk]

coffee? like one cup of great tasting coffee (join our group on mewe) lubricates the synapses and gives a slight cheer.

def lower your kratom dose, try for 2g as a general rule, and you know how to scale up and down to try to find the right spot for that batch.

adderall might be something your doc will prescribe to you, or maybe modafinil (with goodrx.com you can find it for about $30, shop around).

tons of supplements for this, if you feel like experimenting.

[KratomAdvocateMO]

Does anyone else feel …slower on Kratom? My memory, concentration, cognitive processing speed, and articulation have all felt like they’ve taken a hit since I started taking it. I know lowering dose and taking a T break are both solid suggestions but I’m wondering if there are any supplements/specific vitamins you’ve noticed help with the mental fatigue at all. My base understanding is that Kratom affects GABA in some capacity and GABAergics are commonly known to blunt cognitive abilities. What are your experiences?

Hey, I know exactly how you feel as I went through about 3 years in that state of brain fog and forgetfulness. The only real remedy for me was to cut my daily dosage in half. Just by simply doing that my memory has improved dramatically and the brain fog has went away for the most part. I still have my days but it's alot better. I've noticed anything over 6-7 gpd will eventually do that too me.

[Babel-17]

You might have luck with any of several. NAC, Tyrosine, and Rhodiola standardized to salidrosides, all come to mind. I wouldn't stack them though, as IIRC some of what each do is also performed by the others.

I started taking the fancy shmancy form of NAC, and it seems to perform as advertised, minus the hyperbole though, lol.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23000913/

Mine comes with glycine, molybdenum, and selenium, which supposedly make it more effective. On a side note, I recently read that it's not too hard to mistakenly take in an unhealthy amount of selenium, so when taking this NAC I don't take my separate supplmental tabs of selenium.

I also have the regular form of NAC, but it too comes combined with selenium, molybdenum, though no glycine.

[MikeEdoessomething]

You might have luck with any of several. NAC, Tyrosine, and Rhodiola standardized to salidrosides, all come to mind. I wouldn't stack them though, as IIRC some of what each do is also performed by the others.

I started taking the fancy shmancy form of NAC, and it seems to perform as advertised, minus the hyperbole though, lol.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23000913/

Mine comes with glycine, molybdenum, and selenium, which supposedly make it more effective. On a side note, I recently read that it's not too hard to mistakenly take in an unhealthy amount of selenium, so when taking this NAC I don't take my separate supplmental tabs of selenium.

I also have the regular form of NAC, but it too comes combined with selenium, molybdenum, though no glycine.

Where do you buy your NAC from?

N-acetyl-L-tyrosine (NALT or NAT) and Acetyl-L-carnitine, ALCAR are both good IMO

Lions Mane extract I recently started and I noticed its been very helpful for mental clarity and brainfog, and just overall mood in general. Less mind-racing negative thoughts.

[Babel-17]

You might have luck with any of several. NAC, Tyrosine, and Rhodiola standardized to salidrosides, all come to mind. I wouldn't stack them though, as IIRC some of what each do is also performed by the others.

I started taking the fancy shmancy form of NAC, and it seems to perform as advertised, minus the hyperbole though, lol.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23000913/

Mine comes with glycine, molybdenum, and selenium, which supposedly make it more effective. On a side note, I recently read that it's not too hard to mistakenly take in an unhealthy amount of selenium, so when taking this NAC I don't take my separate supplmental tabs of selenium.

I also have the regular form of NAC, but it too comes combined with selenium, molybdenum, though no glycine.

Where do you buy your NAC from?

N-acetyl-L-tyrosine (NALT or NAT) and Acetyl-L-carnitine, ALCAR are both good IMO

Lions Mane extract I recently started and I noticed its been very helpful for mental clarity and brainfog, and just overall mood in general. Less mind-racing negative thoughts.

I have an Amazon Prime account, so I use subscribe and save to order mine there. A pack of two, 60 capsules each, from an outfit called LIPMAXMALL.
I have ALCAR, but it's daunting to take so many supplements sometimes, lol.

[herbalhippie]

I've found if my doses creep up, so does the feeling of brain fog. So I try hard not to do
that and if I do, I drop them again and feel much clearer.

I don't know of any supplements that might help sorry. I've tried numerous
supplements with kratom for this reason and that reason and haven't had
any luck with any of them.

I'm difficult. lol

[Burninator]

coffee? like one cup of great tasting coffee (join our group on mewe) lubricates the synapses and gives a slight cheer.

def lower your kratom dose, try for 2g as a general rule, and you know how to scale up and down to try to find the right spot for that batch.

adderall might be something your doc will prescribe to you, or maybe modafinil (with goodrx.com you can find it for about $30, shop around).

tons of supplements for this, if you feel like experimenting.

Coffee definitely helps but I’m pretty sensitive to it and have a rough time sleeping as is, so caffeine always keeps me up at night. I’ve heard of modafinil but never tried it. I’d imagine it would pose similar issues as caffeine but I’m not opposed to giving it a go

[Burninator]

You might have luck with any of several. NAC, Tyrosine, and Rhodiola standardized to salidrosides, all come to mind. I wouldn't stack them though, as IIRC some of what each do is also performed by the others.

I started taking the fancy shmancy form of NAC, and it seems to perform as advertised, minus the hyperbole though, lol.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23000913/

Mine comes with glycine, molybdenum, and selenium, which supposedly make it more effective. On a side note, I recently read that it's not too hard to mistakenly take in an unhealthy amount of selenium, so when taking this NAC I don't take my separate supplmental tabs of selenium.

I also have the regular form of NAC, but it too comes combined with selenium, molybdenum, though no glycine.

Cool thanks! I used to take NAC as a hangover preventative, but never knew it could help with this too.

[Burninator]

I've found if my doses creep up, so does the feeling of brain fog. So I try hard not to do
that and if I do, I drop them again and feel much clearer.

I don't know of any supplements that might help sorry. I've tried numerous
supplements with kratom for this reason and that reason and haven't had
any luck with any of them.

I'm difficult. lol

The dose creep struggle is real, especially during a long winter lol. Now that the weather is nice and there’s more to do to take my mind off things I’m hoping I can get it back down a bit

[IndelibleDotInk]

Modafinil isn't a stimulant, it just makes the sleepy feeling go away. Military pilots officially can't use Adderal or Desoxyin 'go pills' and use Modafinil.

Shop around with goodrx, I found it for $30 at Costco, around $1,000 at others.

[Burninator]

Modafinil isn't a stimulant, it just makes the sleepy feeling go away. Military pilots officially can't use Adderal or Desoxyin 'go pills' and use Modafinil.

Shop around with goodrx, I found it for $30 at Costco, around $1,000 at others.

Oh dope. My gf has adhd too that it might help with. Do you need a prescription though?

[IndelibleDotInk]

yup, need a script

[Burninator]

Ah sad

[IndelibleDotInk]

Ah sad

Tell your Dr. you heard about it and want to see if it helps you.

[IndelibleDotInk]

Some peeps on mewe report hydrogen water as being effective for quelling inflammation and promoting focus.

Only prob? Hecka expensive. I am gonna try a pouch or small bottle of it before going all in for a hydrogenizing bottle.

[Burninator]

Some peeps on mewe report hydrogen water as being effective for quelling inflammation and promoting focus.

Only prob? Hecka expensive. I am gonna try a pouch or small bottle of it before going all in for a hydrogenizing bottle.

That’s so crazy—my dad just got into hydrogen water last week and was saying I should try some. He’s got the device he said I could use. Maybe it’s a sign..

[IndelibleDotInk]

keep us updated, i'm intrigued by this.

[MitraMan]

I take some Lion’s Mane and Ginseng after my morning coffee and it seems to help me with brain fog. I also like using tiny amounts of 5 hour energy (like 1/20 of a bottle at a time).

[MikeEdoessomething]

I take some Lion’s Mane and Ginseng after my morning coffee and it seems to help me with brain fog. I also like using tiny amounts of 5 hour energy (like 1/20 of a bottle at a time).

Lions mane is 100% helping me with brain fog. It's subtle but noticeable. I've taken in so many supplements over the years, and I'm always a little skeptical, but Lion's Mane I'll be taking everyday for now own, I've been very impressed with it (and other mushrooms like Cordyceps) . I take either Lions Mane extracts from Fresh Caps.com or use a Matcha/Mushroom powder blend from nootropicsdepot (the Matcha and Lion's Mane seem to go great together!)

[Burninator]

keep us updated, i'm intrigued by this.

Going to start taking some tomorrow. I’ll let you know if I notice anything. He says it’s making his eyes water like crazy but in the morning his eyesight is as good without glasses as it is with. Then I guess that fades. I’m pretty curious myself—especially since this is the first NON-MLM crazy health serum my dad’s gotten into in the last decade ha

[Burninator]

I was taking some really high quality lions mane for a little while but got lazy with it. I still have the caps from, like, 3 years ago? What’s the worst that could happen?

[Daydreamsofmountains]

You might have luck with any of several. NAC, Tyrosine, and Rhodiola standardized to salidrosides all come to mind. I wouldn't stack them though, as IIRC some of what each do is also performed by the others.

I started taking the fancy shmancy form of NAC, and it seems to perform as advertised, minus the hyperbole though, lol.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23000913/

Mine comes with glycine, molybdenum, and selenium, which supposedly make it more effective. On a side note, I recently read that it's not too hard to mistakenly take in an unhealthy amount of selenium, so when taking this NAC I don't take my separate supplmental tabs of selenium.

I also have the regular form of NAC, but it too comes combined with selenium, molybdenum, though no glycine.

NAC chelates molybdenum and selenium over time so having a supplement with those in it helps head off potential issues with daily use.

[Babel-17]

You might have luck with any of several. NAC, Tyrosine, and Rhodiola standardized to salidrosides all come to mind. I wouldn't stack them though, as IIRC some of what each do is also performed by the others.

I started taking the fancy shmancy form of NAC, and it seems to perform as advertised, minus the hyperbole though, lol.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23000913/

Mine comes with glycine, molybdenum, and selenium, which supposedly make it more effective. On a side note, I recently read that it's not too hard to mistakenly take in an unhealthy amount of selenium, so when taking this NAC I don't take my separate supplmental tabs of selenium.

I also have the regular form of NAC, but it too comes combined with selenium, molybdenum, though no glycine.

NAC chelates molybdenum and selenium over time so having a supplement with those in it helps head off potential issues with daily use.

Ooh, that's good to know, thank you!

[Daydreamsofmountains]

as with most supplements, cycling is probably the best bet. However, I have taken NAC for your extended lengths of time without negative side effects. It kind of is a swiss army knife imo.

[BlueHulu3]

PPQ and NMN are great supplements that can possibly help with brain fog…

[Burninator]

PPQ and NMN are great supplements that can possibly help with brain fog…

Surprised I’ve never heard of either of these. Going to look into them. Can you be a little more specific on how they’ve helped? Thanks for the suggestion!

[techbotpirate]

Not sure if this was mentioned, but I like L-Theanine. Goes well with caffeine also for added focus.

[RedWhiteAndGreen]

Does anyone else feel …slower on Kratom? My memory, concentration, cognitive processing speed, and articulation have all felt like they’ve taken a hit since I started taking it. I know lowering dose and taking a T break are both solid suggestions but I’m wondering if there are any supplements/specific vitamins you’ve noticed help with the mental fatigue at all. My base understanding is that Kratom affects GABA in some capacity and GABAergics are commonly known to blunt cognitive abilities. What are your experiences?

I noticed brain fog as well and realized that it was the reds specifically which cause fog. So now reds are only taken on the weekends and faster Greens / Whites during the workweek. This completely solved the fog problem, so consider this before taking a bunch of supps . GL

[Billiegoat]

as with most supplements, cycling is probably the best bet. However, I have taken NAC for your extended lengths of time without negative side effects. It kind of is a swiss army knife imo.

I read on here that NAC decreases the effect of kratom, specifically euphoria.. is this not the case with you?

[herbalhippie]

So I've been feeling REALLY brain foggy the last few days. To the point yesterday it was starting to worry me a bit. Felt the same this morning.

I haven't been to the gym since last week, Thursday or Friday.

I went this morning and did some cardio and weight machines. Came home and I'm feeling SHARP.

I wasn't getting enough blood to my brain or something, idk.

[7-hydroxymitragynine]

as with most supplements, cycling is probably the best bet. However, I have taken NAC for your extended lengths of time without negative side effects. It kind of is a swiss army knife imo.

I read on here that NAC decreases the effect of kratom, specifically euphoria.. is this not the case with you?

I've been able to mitigate this fact by taking my NAC last thing before bed.

[Billiegoat]

as with most supplements, cycling is probably the best bet. However, I have taken NAC for your extended lengths of time without negative side effects. It kind of is a swiss army knife imo.

I read on here that NAC decreases the effect of kratom, specifically euphoria.. is this not the case with you?

I've been able to mitigate this fact by taking my NAC last thing before bed.

This thread inspired me to start taking NAC again. It has really helped clear my head up but more importantly it has helped me control the amount of doses of kratom I take during the day. My doses started getting really up there and it produced almost no effect. Since starting taking NAC again I have cut down my kratom intake roughly 75% and have been much more productive.. it really is a miracle drug

[RedWhiteAndGreen]

I read on here that NAC decreases the effect of kratom, specifically euphoria.. is this not the case with you?

I've been able to mitigate this fact by taking my NAC last thing before bed.

This thread inspired me to start taking NAC again. It has really helped clear my head up but more importantly it has helped me control the amount of doses of kratom I take during the day. My doses started getting really up there and it produced almost no effect. Since starting taking NAC again I have cut down my kratom intake roughly 75% and have been much more productive.. it really is a miracle drug

That's a really interesting byproduct of taking NAC -- nice work dropping 75%. As they say, "less is more".

[Billiegoat]

I've been able to mitigate this fact by taking my NAC last thing before bed.

This thread inspired me to start taking NAC again. It has really helped clear my head up but more importantly it has helped me control the amount of doses of kratom I take during the day. My doses started getting really up there and it produced almost no effect. Since starting taking NAC again I have cut down my kratom intake roughly 75% and have been much more productive.. it really is a miracle drug

That's a really interesting byproduct of taking NAC -- nice work dropping 75%. As they say, "less is more".

75% might be an excessive estimate but my dosing creeped up way higher than I wanted it to. I am taking 600 my NAC daily, might start dosing 600 mg 2x per day to get myself back on track

[Kelleytoons]

Do be aware that some of us (ahem, like me :>) have gotten negative results from NAC (so much so I threw away MANY bottles of it).

Essentially it killed my kratom effects. So I killed it <g>.

[RedWhiteAndGreen]

Do be aware that some of us (ahem, like me :>) have gotten negative results from NAC (so much so I threw away MANY bottles of it).

Essentially it killed my kratom effects. So I killed it <g>.

Same happens to me with magnesium supplements. Guess we are all unique snowflakes

[Kelleytoons]

Yeah and the chemistry of Kratom is still not very well understood.

(I take TONS of magnesium without any problems, for example).

There are some attempts here and there to quantify what's going on, but until it's completely legalized everywhere (and, unfortunately, made by the Big Guys and sold by Amazon :>) I don't think we'll have any definite answers (and I'll be long dead so there's that <g>)