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Transformato
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Facts about enclosed content: Political matter : Relevant to kratom communities and more.

Edit- I'm tired but drastically revising this bc it's hard to understand even without my ramble. Ridiculous with it.

Overview:
Online communities and the internet at large are in danger of losing it's soul and value- Call it Free Speech.
It's a big deal. so please check this out. It affects what we value most highly, need and take for granted: freedom of speech on the internet. Let's drop a word to the FCC. That's what you can do about it.

Described clearly here. Just copy/past in browser and scroll down.
SaveOnlineFreeSpeech.org

The POTUS signed an executive order to take take away freedom and to take control of the internet to put it bluntly. Will inadvertently allow bureaucrats to censor and control the internet. There are a number of implications. Without this protection, I don't think we'd be able to coordinate / combine our strengths in order to assert our will the way we have in the past. Every industry and agency would clamor to take control and interfere with the will of people- on any topic. Shape opinion and mold "reality" in support of various agendas, more than is already the case.
This should not be hard to imagine if you have paid attention. Think about it if you need clarity.
We are already physically separated thus compromised. The internet is our lifeline. Jump on this please.
Nothing could be easier.

SaveOnlineFreeSpeech.org

You can learn about this here and drop comment to the FCC before end of 9/17/20.
(it's a couple of clicks and a word)
SaveOnlineFreeSpeech.org

Scroll down that page to get the info.
Both Dems & Rep politicians have taken shots at screwing us on this, likely because everyone pushes their agendas without the careful considerations that we expect that they would have.
Seems that consequence is someone else's problem (ours)

THE SITE EXPLAINS BETTER ( SaveOnlineFreeSpeech.org )
but here's my shot at it.
Executive order to repeal Section 230. This law, put maybe too simply, has been in place since the birth of the internet. It prevents govt censorship and protects site owners from legal assault they would otherwise be exposed to. Currently under 230 we can post content without endangering the site owner bc of what we say, post or do here. Without it, it won't be worth having a website as an individual or small business. Risk would outweigh everything else.

This was demonstrated years ago when the law was in danger or revision or repeal-
Reddit went berzerk in anticipation of losing this protection. THAT is what the Reddit Exodus was all about- AND why Backpage shut down. To avoid exposure to litigation & financial destruction by censoring and regulating in advance of disaster.

This is activity that we all need to stay aware of.

This is not a fundraising campaign or some propaganda. It's a CRITICAL call to action.
NO it is NOT the AKA dammit
It's opportunity to comment to the FCC (made very fast & easy) once you understand what for and why. You can learn more by visiting the website I'm linking to -

SaveOnlineFreeSpeech.org
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Omg, more anti-Trump propaganda? Have any of you read this executive order on any non-garbage website? Or let me guess, you've been reading from vox.com, theguardian.com, latimes.com, etc. Trump is trying to STOP Twitter and Facebook from censoring what is allowed to be put up. Twitter and Facebook allow attacks on Trump and when Trump supporters try to answer, they never appear. How many times has Facebook taken down kratom sites? Do you want to support that?

If you think this isn't propaganda, you are SORELY mistaken. Section 230 is NOT a safeguard for free speech on the internet. It's a more than 20-year-old law that has protected tech companies from being sued for content on their site. It's just like what protects policemen from being sued in Civil Court for their actions. Do you believe in bad police beating people?

From the tweet on SaveOnlineFreeSpeech.org - "Trump's order, which came two days after Twitter added a disclaimer to his tweets, could open a door to lawsuits against social media companies." Isn't Facebook banning kratom sites, an infringement of the Freedom of Speech? Do you think if Facebook could be sued for that, they would continue to ban kratom sites with impunity? Do you really want to shoot that down? And gee, look... It's from latimes.com and Twitter supports it. There's a shock.

PLEASE do your research on real sites. Hopefully you know what some of them are. Do research on what is being affected, not some op-ed from a random author/writer. Here, check this one out and it even has in the title of the article about the POTUS wanting Congress to repeal Act 230. There's no misleading in this article and if you don't want to believe it, Google/Bing what is being said. NEVER take anything from one source on the internet as fact.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewst ... 18950a15c6
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Transformato wrote: The POTUS signed an executive order to take take away freedom and to take control of the internet
:lol: No he didn't. Quite the opposite actually.
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Absolutely NO political talk on the forum! (viewtopic.php?f=7&t=6184) unless it's directly kratom related, or it's in the dedicated politics megathread (found here - viewtopic.php?f=19&t=6183).
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